Post cycle therapy confusion

[79steeler]

I just read a thread where it was said the Nolvadex and Clomid are not the best for post cycle therapy.

I will be running 250iu of hcg twice a week from week four through to post cycle therapy, which was going to be Nolvadex and Clomid, and now I'm hearing on this other thread that there is a better way? Can you guy's please enlighten me.

 

[xrsist]

what are they saying on this other thread is better than clomid and nolva?

 

[79steeler]

sustain alpha 5 pumps ed 8wks
toco-8
phosphatidylsenie

Then 10mg nolva and 25mg clomid 8wks.

The guy's saying that the sides from Clomid are hell and that alot of guy's are getting away from these to for pct.

 

[79steeler]

The thread is titled can I skip pct. It goes on to talk about the other things I mentioned. Also stated Aromisen instead of Clomid.

 

[njmuscleguy]

That's Primordial Performance's thread...he's offering a more "natural", less "old-school" approach to P C T... many people over the years have experienced side effects from nol-va and clo-mid... not to mention they don't always work for some.

You can certainly still use either clo-mid or nol-va, just be aware that the sides could happen to you.

 

[xrsist]

dont use clomid for 8 weeks
i love clomid 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks

 

[Nelson Montana]

I was the first to speak out against Clomid over 5 years ago. (There are many reasons for this but I won;t go into it now. ) Today it's becoming more accepted that many are better off without it. I designed two supplements -- UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE to be used in conjunction with HCG and a little arimidex and it has worked out beautifully for everyone who's used it. I also found the Dermacrine sustain to be a nice addition if you'd like to try it.

Phosphadydleserine is a mild anti catabolic but does nothing to repair the HPTA or increase hormaonal balance.

I never heard of Taco 8

 

[centy]

Nolva and I don't play well together. Nearly ruined me lol.

I ran a PCT like what Nelson describes ^ and it was successful. No harsh drugs and my blood test showed complete recovery after the 4th week.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nolva and I don't play well together. Nearly ruined me lol.

I ran a PCT like what Nelson describes ^ and it was successful. No harsh drugs and my blood test showed complete recovery after the 4th week.

Excellent.

I don't know what else people need to hear. They keep believing these outdated theories being spouted by gurus who are experts in misinformation. Blood tests don't lie.

Leave Nolva for the cancer patients . It's a terrible drug that even Dan Duchaine denounced. And he was the guy who first advocated its use!

 

[Primordial Performance]

sustain alpha 5 pumps ed 8wks
toco-8
phosphatidylsenie

Then 10mg nolva and 25mg clomid 8wks.

The guy's saying that the sides from Clomid are hell and that alot of guy's are getting away from these to for pct.

If you already have clomid you can run it for PCT, but keep the dose low at 25mg/day for no more than 6 weeks. More than this will not help you.

We will be offering “EndoAmp” soon which will be a phophatidylserine supplement. This helps reduce cortisol, while supporting testosterone production. (cortisol actually breaks down the testes and reduces their ability to produce test, EndoAmp prevents this)

Toco-8 is a tocotrienol complex that helps sensitize the testes to the effects of LH. Both EndoAmp and Toco-8 work synergisticly together to make Sustain Alpha work better for PCT.


-Pp