POST CYCLE BLUES.. lets discuss...

[satchboogie]

pysiologically, our body is goin through change.
mentally, it can be devastating.

whats your thoughts on overcoming the PCT blues?

 

[Rod555]

i cant think bout it right now satch, im just too damn sad.............

 

[wellbilt]

not sure exactly what to say i only experience slight depression after my recent var cycle (which was my first bout with aas)i think i was more depressed because it was over ya know it was like vacation when its over anyway i just kept my head up and followed my pct and started thinking about future cycles which helps the most i think beacuse its like planning another vacation it gets ya all excited. ialso used the mental anguish to push tthe heavy weights in the gym beacusei am very dead set on keeping my gains which so far i have i feel good now finished pct went for blood work today wioll find out results soon . ialso nalowwed myself more leaway with my diet and going out and partying when i was on i kept my partying to an absolute minimum i dont mean i just went crazy just alooowed my self a brake i also took like 7 days off after my last dose of var.i was alittle woried about taking this time of because i thought i would loose muscle but i didnt notice any loss it was hard though because i actually enjoy training and look foward to going to the gym so i compensated by going to the gym nand doing cardio 4 dyas out of the seven this slao alooowed my to eat more cheat foods and keep fAT gain to a minimum hope this helps yopu satch whats your remedies for the post cycle blues

 

[SuperDawgy]

I got the blues...the PCT blues, oh yeah i got em real bad! My needle gone off and left me, my balls are coming back to life, my sex drive is nonexistent...don't believe me just ask my wife!!! I got the blues, oh fuck yeah...the "i need a shot of test" PCT blues!


Really, i know it's coming so i usually handle it well. Lots of ice cream and beer helps.

 

[alltraps]

im so moody, my girl is about to leave me cuz of my lack of patience. i snap at everything she says. im not sure how much longer she or I can take it.

 

[season7445]

I am really bad. IT seems when im done, i get so unmotivated i dont even care about going to the gym, it is a struggle even to go. I do though. This is the one thing that kkeps me from doing to many cycles ( oh and the money LMAO), when im not on i am at a steady motivational level, when im on i go way way up, and then fall reall hard, and it take like 2 months for me to get back to that constant level. Sucks

 

[psychedout]

I will be in the post cycle blues in a little over a week.

Endurance post cycle is what makes me feel like ass.

However, 300mg of clomid and one helluva money shot usually does the trick to cheer me up. 3 cheers for clomid! Hip hip horray! Hip hip horray! Hip hip horray!

 

[Mavy]

Its hard to be cool ... when you are pumping out about as much testosterone as a 15 year old school girl is.

 

[Goodfellow]

I like to incorporate stuff like IGF1 into my pct. Ever since I started that, it has really helped post cycle mentally because I can still pack on mass.



Karma is always welcome!

 

[Lenas25]

Damn, its been 18 days since my last shot of Duratest and EQ, im currently on Nolvadex at 20mgs a day, boys are coming back to life sooner than usual. Waiting till day 21 to start clomid. Feeling kinda down and very low on patience.

Just kinda depressed, but nothing major like on my first cycle (this was my second)

Already looking to 3rd cycle, but kinda thinking about forgoing test this time as it fucks with me a lot.

 

[Largepaws]

Know the feeling bro. Just had a nice 16 week cycle planned, but cut short at 9 weeks becuse the DEA decided to take my source away. Just starting to make some real nice gains too....now im with out a source, and worse off, with out any TEST! Fuck!

 

[marklm725]

just appreciate all the gains u received, and work towards your next cycle, make urself want to be that much bigger for ur next cycle, so u can explode on it! thats all i can think of . . .

 

[alltraps]

how long does this state usualy last for you guys? for me, it takes a good two to three months

 

[flex2win]

For some, it can be a state of psychological agony...for others, it's a chance to come back and celebrate another "Tour of Duty"

 

[georgie24]

coming off primo/masteron/winny 3 months on. lets just say thank god for benzo's.. if used right and short term i see no ill effects from them. coming off winny is HARD as it affects the cns like no other steroid. the withdrawl from winny hit me 2 weeks post cycle...i will use again for 5-6 weeks tops.

what are you coming off of satch?

 

[meatneck]

coming off of eq/winny 13 weeks on. Another week and I'll start my pct. Hopefully I won't get the blues either, but I have lots of anti-depression meds around (tricyclic).

But you wanna hear something funny? We all sound like a bunch of girls at the time of the month!!! NOW GO AND BENCHPRESS DAMMIT!!!!!

 

[theoak01]

how long does this state usualy last for you guys? for me, it takes a good two to three months

I ended pct in june and Im still a miserable fucking prick,I drive my girl nuts with my bullshit, so I hear ya on this bro

 

[georgie24]

thats why is 6-7 week cycles with fast acting esters for me from now on. fuck this shit man

 

[theoak01]

for me I find longer cycles work best,it gives my body time to adjust to the new weight and is easier on me that way, but I agree a shorter cycle would probably be great for mental aspects

 

[Jenetic]

This is why HCG is absolutely necessary.

HCG is to synthetic testosterone as Clomid and Nolvadex are to tribulus.

The action of HCG is identical to that of pituitary LH. This takes place independantly and is not affected by exogenous hormones and/or preexisting HPTA suppression. Therefore, it directly causes a dramatic increase in endogenous testosterone production. Obviously, the impact is strong enough considering HCG usage is commonly associated with the developement of gynecomastia.

Both Clomid and Nolvadex increase pituitary LH secretion in secondary manner by blocking estrogen negative feedback on the HPTA. This is not strong enough by itself to counteract the severe imbalance in the androgen:estrogen ratio that is encountered post cycle.

Regardless, endogenous LH secretion increases as the hormones diminish from your system. In conclusion, to avoid uneccesary delays in recovery, HCG is used to immediately increase endogenous testosterone production, testicular volume and spermatogenesis while Clomid and Nolvadex are used as anti estrogens and to increase pituitary LH secretion.

An almost bullet proof PCT protocol is 1000-1,500 IU's HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri), 50 mgs Clomid ED and 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for the first three weeks followed by an additional 50mgs Clomid ED and 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for 2-3 weeks.

Both high levels of estrogen and/or prolactin as you begin PCT will complicate or delay recovery. This is not an issue as long as the usage of an aromatase inhibitor when using aromatizing AAS and an anti prolactin when using nandrolones are used to minimize of prevent the increase in excess circulating concentrations of these hormones.

Jenetic

 

[georgie24]

also thanking god for my hcg vials......wait a minute i should be thanking my source lol

 

[satchboogie]

also thanking god for my hcg vials......wait a minute i should be thanking my source lol

 

[Watson]

I just got through with a 15 weeker of Deca and Test and finished off with Var. It's about my 6th cycle, but I've never had a crash this bad. I've dealt with depression since I was around 22(when I first started cycling! This is starting to seem less and less like a coincedence.) so I have learned to live with it and it is nothing new, but it is the worst feeling in the world. It's been about 2 months since I've got off and I'm still not myself. No sex drive, no motivation, very low self esteem. It makes getting up in the morning almost as hard as the rest of the day. I'm hoping this get's better as time goes on and my body gets back to normal, because I'm hurtin here. Currently on clomid at 50 mg. per day because I started late. Anybody with any similar experiences or suggestions feel free to share them.

 

[biteme]

I have no idea what that is. I have lowered my test dosage from 350mgs to 150mgs for a little over a month now. I can tell little difference.