Possibly starting first cycle

[ProBorg]

Hey everyone, it's been almost 2 years of lifting with a purpose. I have gone from a 120 pound vegan to weighing in at 172 earlier this week. I have kept my bodyfat under 13 percent or so, and I have been very proud of how far I have made it so far.

I'm about to be 25, and looking to start a cycle of some sort of anabolic for two reasons:

1. I have a small frame and feel that my genetics won't allow to me to grow much past what I am naturally.

2. I am strong for my size and weight, but not big.

I have gotten extremely strong from what I started at, and pound for pound I out lift all of my buddies in the gym, but I still weigh less and have smaller measurements. I eat 3,200-3,600 cals a day (410-450g carbs, 225g protein, 75g fat per day). Everything I eat is weighed to the gram and I take lifting and nutrition very seriously.

I'm sure you guys are sick of people asking by now, but A few people have recommended doing just test, but I would like some input on what would be best to get thicker, more full and wide muscle development than just big puffy muscles on a small frame. Orals? Injectables? Hgh? Test?

Thanks everyone

 

[bonacris]

Might sound irrelevant but what height are you

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[ProBorg]

I'm right around 5 foot 9

 

[Duramax747]

Orals might be An option for you. Your a little light for aas. I'd try some helladrol for 6 weeks. Might get you past your Plateau you have reached and might also put some more weight on you to help get ready for a aas cycle.

 

[bonacris]

Hella or epi would be sweet

Hell I think a natty test boosting stack would do you good

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[ProBorg]

I've done two or three cycles of test boosters that contain androstenelone and/or pregnanolone. Both increased energy levels, strength, no side effects, but also not much size came along with them. I know nothing is a miracle drug or pill, but I would love to do one cycle of something that i can maintain with minimal sides.

Money is not an issue for me at this point as well... If that makes a difference.

 

[bonacris]

Look into helladrol. There are tons of logs on it.. 6 weeks will give you nice lean gains and increase your strength. If you come up with a cycle and pct layout we will fine tune it for you..


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[ProBorg]

Thanks for the advice, ill have to give helladrol a shot. Any recommendations on stacks, PCT, or liver support while taking it?

 

[ProBorg]

From what I've read - a good basic jumping off point would be forged liver support, formastanzol, and helladrol...

Any Recs on stacking helladrol with another, or dosage recs for certain weeks for enhanced benefit?

 

[semper03]

Thanks for the advice, ill have to give helladrol a shot. Any recommendations on stacks, PCT, or liver support while taking it?

A good test boosting pct

Unleashed
Post cycle (double dose)
Daa powder or power chews
Forma stanzol

 

[Duramax747]

I'm currently in my 5th week of helladrol and 6-MDROL. It's a really nice stack with lots of lean mass and strength. If you want to know my layout message me. Ill help ya out bro.

 

[ProBorg]

Thanks for the input!

Any input on a 6-mdrol/helladrol stack?

 

[ProBorg]

Haha I swear I posted that before I read yours... Ill hit you up, thanks a bunch.

 

[Jbranken]

A good test boosting pct

Unleashed
Post cycle (double dose)
Daa powder or power chews
Forma stanzol

This would be the ideal pct for hella. Use some hcgenerate on cycle to keep your balls plump and some Tudca, n2guard or forged liver for liver support and you'll be set.

You seem to be in tune with your diet which is great and the hardest thing for beginners to do but ill make one suggestion... Eat more protein on cycle. Since protein synthesis will greatly improve, you should eat 2g per lb of body weight minimum. This will help you grow. Other than that, good luck

 

[dylangemelli]

I am going to lay out the entire cycle for you bro...

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 n2guard ntbm.com
1-4 hcgenerate ES ntbm.com
5-8 hcgenerate ntbm.com
3-10 forma stanzol mrsupps.com

pct 7-10

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo ntbm.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

Phytoserms and HCGenerate
can be used in place of the Unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock

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[bonacris]

I like the way this thread went.. everyone was very helpful and the OP even did his own research.. we need more people like this..

OP you should run a log detailing how you get on on your very 1st cycle

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[ProBorg]

Thanks for all the help guys, I will most definitely take all of this into consideration when making my purchase today.

I will also get a log started, as suggested, so I can track my progress and everyone can see how a newbie responds to prohormones in general. Thanks again!