Possible to get off Thyroid meds?

[Smokescreen]

I've been on Synthroid since the beginning of the year. But as of the last few months. I've also been put on Testosterone, HCG, DHEA, L-tyrosine. And I also started to eat again at 5-6 meals a day. And of course, I'm training 4-5 days of the week.

When doc put me on Synthroid (very beginning of the year). I was eating only 2-3 meals a day. I haven't trained in months. I wasn't taking HCG or DHEA (my DHEA was at 60 and the range is between 150-700). And my Testosterone levels were too high (I was taking around 400mgs per week). And I wasn't taking L-tyrosine.

Since now I am taking HCG, DHEA, normal HRT doses of Testosterone, L-tyrosine, eating 5-6 meals a day, drinking more water, Training and of course now going to sleep at a normal time. Can I get off my Synthroid?

Is it possible to get off Synthroid after being on if for almost 10 months?

BTW...since being put on the synthroid. I haven't noticed ANY changes at all! Doc said I would feel better. I really felt nothing. Doc said I will be more energetic and motivated. And of course....lose most of the water weight I had around my midsection. But! None of that EVER happened.

What I take now is Dexedrine Spansules. It's an amphetamine used for ADD. This drug DID make me feel better by giving me more energy, focus, concentration, drive, ambition, libido. And it also allowed me to lose a lot of water weight gain I had.

Why do I want to get off the synthroid? Well, because I never saw any benefits from it. Nothing good NOR bad came from it. And let's be honest, why waste the money that I DON'T have on something I "might" not even need.

I'm just afraid that I will end up extremely fat. And or end up with mental disturbances.

 

[Roxy722]

I'm curious if the dexadrine is prescribed by the doc too?

 

[needtogetarmy]

When you take synthroid for extended periods of time the chances of you being able to come off are slim. I have to take 50mcg ED for the rest of my life.

You can taper it down. Head from 50mcg to 25 to 10 and then stop. Do it for two weeks at each dose, then reduce it. The thyroid is a very sensitive gland and it regulates tons of things from metabolism, to mood etc. When mine died I was a wreck. Cold feet, lethargy, couldn't sleep, it was a nightmare.

I would taper down and then get your blood done 3-4 weeks after your last dose. It does take a while for your system to adjust. The same goes if you have to start up again. It can take 4-6 weeks for your body to fully adjust to the meds.

Good luck.

 

[Smokescreen]

I'm curious if the dexadrine is prescribed by the doc too?

Of course.

 

[aquarius21]

What is your Sythroid dosage ?
Why has the doc started sythroid at all ? Were your labs showing hypo state or were feeling hypo symptoms ?

What are your thyroid levels now ?
What were your Free t3,free t4, and TSH before the treatment and now ?
antibodies test ?

If your labs were showing low thyroid before the treatment, you might be just fine now thanks to the synthroid, because your symptoms could
appear later if left untreated.

All of these answers are needed, and it is really important to know your Free t3, free t4, tsh , antibodies levels
in order to have the correct answers.

 

[OMEGA]

If your Hypo thyroid then NO

 

[Stocks_and_Steroids]

I know you want off and I hope it works out. I don't understand why you went along with Thyroid meds after being off training and eating like crap. I could undertstand if you were eating clean and training hard and not getting any leaner, but to jump on the drug first is very wrong. To me, that is like someone who after a long time on the couch goes to the bathroom injects 500mg Test and goes to the gym without no period to prime the body to do what it can first before the Drug.
Thyroid meds scare the hell out of me. With enough training and smart dieting anyone can overcome a slow metabolism. I would suggest dropping the dose and eventually seeing how your body reacts without the med. And of course train and diet hard to compensate.

 

[SuperOne]

Your cortisol may be low and if this is so then your thyroid meds will basically be useless because thryoid needs cortisol to work.



I know of a few stories of people who were able to get off thyroid meds after remineralizing their body and really detoxing. To fix this problem you need the help of a really good alternative health doctor. You need to make sure you are getting enough absorbable iodine, zinc, selenium, iron, vitamin c, b vitamins, and look into detoxing heavy metals and such out of the body. Also leaky gut and undigested proteins in the body cause autoimmune problems which can cause thyroid problems. Unless your thyroid is cut out, it totally IS possible to get off thyroid meds if done the right way, so dont lose hope. If you want some good fully absorbable mineral products then I can post some links that may help.

 

[Smokescreen]

I really don't know why he even put me on synthroid to be honest. After seeing him for so many years. One day out of the blue he decides to check my thyroid. And says I need Synthroid. It showed a little low. But then again, I did just get off of a cycle of Cytomel. LOL

 

[foxbody351w]

If you only had your TSH checked that is only a fraction of the big picture with your thyroid. You can have a high TSH and normal physical values for T3 and T4 but a poor conversion rate or autoimmune Hashimotos Thyroiditis..

Flat out if you had a high TSH and you were put on T4 ONLY(synthroid, levo, etc.) and you did not experience improvements in your symptoms then t4 was not the answer to your problems..you could have normal T4 levels and you just dont convert very well to T3 or you could have selenium deficiency, or even the hashimotos that your immune system attacks your thyroid despite high doses of thyroid meds.

You need to make sure you had more than just TSH checked, you need to look at T4 and T3 levels, T3 uptake, TPO and Thyroid antiglobulin antibodies.

MOST thyroid issues are not primary thyroidism where you can just take T4 and everything is back to normal.
If you had low test then you prob had higher estrogen and estrogen binds to the thyroid hormone making it useless, so it sounds like you are getting other hormonal/endocrine issues taken care of now and thats a start but you need to consider a more qualified doctor who specializes in secondary hypothyroidism/autoimmune thyroiditis..

If doc prescribed you ADD meds he is treating thyroid SYMPTOMS and NOT the CAUSE of the thyroid problems..he prob also offered you depression meds for your mood, also only treating the symptoms NOT THE ROOT CAUSE of the thyroid issue. If your thyroid was taken care of properly you would not need something for fatigue and you would have lost the weight gained from the issue.

Dr. Mark Starr has some good books to consider reading, he is very knowledgeable in this field.
I had to go to 6 different doctors before I found one that would actually listen to me and not think I was crazy or making symptoms up because the T4 meds were a cureall and I couldnt possibly still be having thyroid symptoms.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I really don't know why he even put me on synthroid to be honest. After seeing him for so many years. One day out of the blue he decides to check my thyroid. And says I need Synthroid. It showed a little low. But then again, I did just get off of a cycle of Cytomel. LOL

Well, there's your answer.

 

[Smokescreen]

So what can I do to get my own thyroid back to normal? A lot of bodybuilders use T3. And even in high doses. We all know this. And when they come off the T3 ( or T4 ). Their thyroids are slowed down for a while.

What can be done in order to bring the thyroid back up? And as quickly as possible? What are all the steps/foods/drugs etc etc in order to regain the thyroid?

 

[tical]

As far as I know, there is nothing to "jumpstart" the thyroid. You just have to wean off thyroid meds and your thyroid should rebound by itself as you're weaning.

 

[Smokescreen]

As far as I know, there is nothing to "jumpstart" the thyroid. You just have to wean off thyroid meds and your thyroid should rebound by itself as you're weaning.

I take Synthroid which btw has a very long half-life. 6.5 days! Was taking 150mcgs per day. Is this something I can just stop taking? Or should I really decrease it down to 100mcg and then to 50mcg?

 

[tical]

I wouldn't stop out right, just taper down every 5 days or so by 50mcg.

It would probably be useful to get a blood test for reverse T3 as well. T4 only therapy isn't typically a good idea. If you have too much T4 in your body and it can't convert to t3, or the t3 is pooling up in your blood because you have low cortisol, then T4 will turn into reverse T3. Reverse T3 is a mirror image of T3 except it is an inactive hormone. The problem with this is, it binds to T3 cell receptors and actually prevents real T3 from getting in.

This will cause more T3 to build up in the blood and your body will turn more T4 into RT3 in an attempt to avoid excess T3 in the blood.

It's a vicious cycle. If you have high RT3 that is probably why you aren't feeling any benefit from the thyroid meds you're taking.

 

[TK777]

Check out WWW.stopthethyroidmadness.com and WWW.thyroid-info.com. Excellent sources for thyroid issues. I'm hypothyroid and was started with Synthroid and felt horrible. Do, I sought out a doctor that used Armour Thyroid. Now, I feel awesome.

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[Smokescreen]

Check out Thyroid Mistreatment, Hypothyroidism Scandals, and Thyroid Treatment Problems | Stop The Thyroid Madness? and Thyroid Disease Information Source -- Bestselling Books, News, Information on Living Well With Hypothyroidism, Autoimmune Disease, Thyroid Diet, Home Page of Mary Shomon. Excellent sources for thyroid issues. I'm hypothyroid and was started with Synthroid and felt horrible. Do, I sought out a doctor that used Armour Thyroid. Now, I feel awesome.

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See, I use Synthroid and Cytomel. Once for like a whole month I stayed on ONLY Synthroid without Cytomel. And I must say I too felt a little awful. Slow, weak and semi-sleepy. And getting out of bed was a real bitch! But then re-adding cytomel made a differnce.

When you say Synthroid made you feel like shit, what do you mean? Shit how? And why were you never put on cytomel as well?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Armour is superior to synthoid since it has the entire T2 T3 T4 spectrum and from a natural source. Some people with mild hypothyroidism have found tremendous success with ZIP Fat Burner | Weight Loss Supplements but if you've been on hormone therapy for over a year, you may be able to lower the dosage but most likely you'll still need some medication.

 

[stevesmi]

it can be frustrating to not be able to reach your goals and its tempting to use T3, but there are better ways.

hope you can get your thyroid back bro. i agree with tapering it down and just crossing your fingers. look into T3 PCT as well.

 

[Smokescreen]

Armour is superior to synthoid since it has the entire T2 T3 T4 spectrum and from a natural source. Some people with mild hypothyroidism have found tremendous success with ZIP Fat Burner | Weight Loss Supplements but if you've been on hormone therapy for over a year, you may be able to lower the dosage but most likely you'll still need some medication.

Nelson, do you use Armour? Or Sythroid/Cytomel combo?

What does T2 do?

So those (like me) that use Synthroid/Cytomel have LOW levels (or nonexistent) of T2?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, do you use Armour? Or Sythroid/Cytomel combo?

What does T2 do?

So those (like me) that use Synthroid/Cytomel have LOW levels (or nonexistent) of T2?

I use Armour. I have a form of hypothyroidism called Hashimotos disease where my body doesn't convert T4 into T3 efficiently so I'd wind up needing massive does of synthroid. But instead of going on Cytomel, (pure T3) which is harsh and shuts down natural production altogether, the Armour has a little of each of the hormones in a natural blend and that seems to work best.

T2 is essentially a regulator of the other hormones and responsible in part for using fat for fuel.

An incidentally, ZIP http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=108&cat=0&page=1 is the only supplement which contains some natural desicatted thyroid. The same as in Armor thyroid.

 

[Smokescreen]

Does this mean that by ME using Synthroid/Cytomel combo, I am NOT getting any T2? And my T2 levels are shit low???

 

[Nelson Montana]

Does this mean that by ME using Synthroid/Cytomel combo, I am NOT getting any T2? And my T2 levels are shit low???

Could be, yeah. Try adding the ZIP. It'l help.

 

[TK777]

Smokescreen, when I sad that I felt bad, I meant that for some reason I ached all over. It started getting so bad, I stopped training. I was also tired. I had to keep caffeine tabs around all the time. I felt better before I was diagnosed! The endocrinologist that I went to was an asshole and said that living with hypothyroidism is simple, all you have to do is take your Synthroid! What a fucking joke. I didn't even get a follow-up appointment on the way out the door because I knew that I wouldn't be back. I wad already scouting out a Armour Thyroid advocate. I took myself off of Synthroid before my first appointment was even made. (Sorry I rambled on and on, but it was a very frustrating time for me.)

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[Smokescreen]

Smokescreen, when I sad that I felt bad, I meant that for some reason I ached all over. It started getting so bad, I stopped training. I was also tired. I had to keep caffeine tabs around all the time. I felt better before I was diagnosed! The endocrinologist that I went to was an asshole and said that living with hypothyroidism is simple, all you have to do is take your Synthroid! What a fucking joke. I didn't even get a follow-up appointment on the way out the door because I knew that I wouldn't be back. I wad already scouting out a Armour Thyroid advocate. I took myself off of Synthroid before my first appointment was even made. (Sorry I rambled on and on, but it was a very frustrating time for me.)

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That ache was probably fibromylagia. I know how that feels like. But now that I'm on Syntroid and Cytomel, I don't have that problem. And I'm not tired at all.

 

[TK777]

No, it wasn't fibromyalgia. I think that's a psychological disorder. Synthroid has gotten a bad rap from Day One. It was even rejected from FDA approval at least one time.

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