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UnStopAbleForce

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I am planning on doing a cutting cycle cycle probaly in May. I was just planning some things out, that way I can start buying what I need now, little by little. Please critique tell me what ya think. I am going to combine this with a strict diet. This is my 3rd cycle. I am currently using accutane, and will wait until I finish up to start cycle. I've been gaining alot of weight for some reason on accutane, so I will be looking to lose it all. I am starting to get a little gut no matter how much cardio and diet. Will be looking to add a little bit of LBM if possible, if not atleast keep what I have and maybe add some vascularity. Please critique cycle:



Weeks 1-10
Test- 250mg per week
EQ- 500mg per week
Nolva- 15mg ed

Weeks- 6-10
Winny (tabs)- 50mg ed

Weeks 1+2/5+6/9+10
Clenbuterol
40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100/80/80/60/60/40/40

Weeks 3+4/7+8
Thermorexin- 2 capules, three times a day
 
This isn't really official yet. I am just sort of tossing around ideas. Was on accutane, will be going back on it in another 2 in the half weeks. Click link to know why I had to come off. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=294093 As soons as I am done with full course of accutane I will be going on a cycle (which I can't wait). It seems the accutane has slowed my metabolism a little, so when I am done with it I will continue to diet hard, do a lot of cardio, and hopefully develop a 6 pack and some lean body mass, with some vascularity again!!! Please give me your opinions. I am currently 5'10, 206 pounds, have no idea of body fat percentage, I'd guess it was pretty high right now.
 
id take the clenbuterol out and not even take EQ if you arent getting it for a great deal. im a big tren fan. have you ever taken it at all?
 
Never took Tren. I plan on taken glucorell r, tyler liver detox, and a multi. What other supplements do you suggest? I weigh 206, probaly like 16-20 percent body fat. I have been gaining weight rapidly since I've been on the tane. Its almost unbeleiveable.
 
just wanted to make sure youre planning on a multi.

i would hope that you are going to take HCG at the end of everything. that would be something id almost consider crucial

having said that. Tren is much cheaper than EQ and probably just as good of a choice (IMO of course, but what do i know).

id take your test at 250 ew for ten weeks
take tren for 8 weeks at 50-75 mg ed (please dont take more than that, youd be one bloated out puppy)
probably a very good idea to take winstrol for the last 5 weeks, youll be more pleasing to look at then. (winny rocks)
 
I can tell, lol. I dont wanna use tren because I dont want to deal with the sides, and dont want to be bloated what so ever. And yes, I forgot to mention I am planning on running clomid at the end, and iwll probaly run some HCG.
 
I think your cycle looks pretty good. I personally like EQ however i have never tried tren. I just dont see a need to use it, too many immunosurpressive qualities. I would keep the clen in there and use trex to help take down some of your bodyfat.

Just remember that your bodyfat is mainly determined by your diet. That has to be in check first.

Also, i dont feel HCG is needed at all. Post cycle consisting of avena sativa, maca, clomid and zinc should be all you will need.

Im guessing your using nolvas becauses u know u have a predisposition to gyno??
 
gotgame83 said:
I think your cycle looks pretty good. I personally like EQ however i have never tried tren. I just dont see a need to use it, too many immunosurpressive qualities. I would keep the clen in there and use trex to help take down some of your bodyfat.

Just remember that your bodyfat is mainly determined by your diet. That has to be in check first.

Also, i dont feel HCG is needed at all. Post cycle consisting of avena sativa, maca, clomid and zinc should be all you will need.

Im guessing your using nolvas becauses u know u have a predisposition to gyno??
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man im going to have to disagree with a couple things youve said. your diet may control a lot, but estrogen will send you all to hell even with a perfect diet.

a lot of people have worse of a time on EQ than they do on about anything else.

some people wouldnt take HCG. They dont feel their testicles are important. its cheap and effective and worth it for me. once again im not the end all source for information, but i would recommend HCG.

No one should have to take clomid.

for this purpose zinc is a joke.
 
im not an expert on everything, but ive had great experiences with tren/winny.














no digger just got mad at me and changed my info.
 
damnit it my computer froze again when i was responding, lets try this again.

As for the estrogen part that is true. however that is very easily controlled by ldex or femera. As opposed to tren and potential prolactin side effects which would require dostinex, although rare i would much rather have the more common estrogen.

As for EQ, i realize that you may not like this particular compound but it no way is it more surpressive then tren. For you personally, maybe yes, but not for the majority of users.

If you use HCG in all your cycles that is your perogative, however I have ran a similiar cyle and have easily recovered by using clomid and herbs. I feel HCG is better used for cycles of greater amounts and longer durations then the one stated.

Unstopableforce, how do you respond to clomid?
 
gotgame83 said:
damnit it my computer froze again when i was responding, lets try this again.

As for the estrogen part that is true. however that is very easily controlled by ldex or femera. As opposed to tren and potential prolactin side effects which would require dostinex, although rare i would much rather have the more common estrogen.

As for EQ, i realize that you may not like this particular compound but it no way is it more surpressive then tren. For you personally, maybe yes, but not for the majority of users.

If you use HCG in all your cycles that is your perogative, however I have ran a similiar cyle and have easily recovered by using clomid and herbs. I feel HCG is better used for cycles of greater amounts and longer durations then the one stated.

Unstopableforce, how do you respond to clomid?
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i see where we see this differently. i think we werent arguing the same thing.

tren is very suppressive to most everyone that uses it. its been my experience that with winny tren didnt hurt me at all that way. otherwise i would agree with you on that.


here's my take:

500mg EW of EQ is not that much (not worth the cost in my opinion)
50-75 mg tren is a pretty standard dose. He's lookin to cut up. I wouldnt use EQ for that for two reasons, cost and the estro fat issue. liquidex isnt tops on my list just because of the crazy high lipid levels you can get from it. ive always had a very fatty chest, so has my bro and dad. ive not had craziness with prolactin induced gynecomastia (knock on wood)

if he can recover from herbs then go for it. id not gamble on that one, but many people do with greatresults.
 
I agree with the tren thing. Even when you are bulking and on a high cal diet it seems like you lose fat with tren. Sides are exaggerated I think.
 
I have the same problem as far as a very fatty chest goes. That is one of the top things I want to work on, and Im hoping usin the nolva eod and the yohimburn will help.
 
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