Positive attitude on First Cycle

[GatorMAG]

Wondered if I could get some opinions on my first cycle. Here is what was recommended to me:

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST ENAN
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid

Please only educated responses. If you think something should be different, please explain why your way would benefit me better. Remember...this is my first cycle. I don't want to go crazy my first time out.

 

[swordfish151]

Wondered if I could get some opinions on my first cycle. Here is what was recommended to me:

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST ENAN
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid

Please only educated responses. If you think something should be different, please explain why your way would benefit me better. Remember...this is my first cycle. I don't want to go crazy my first time out.

If you dont want to go crazy..drop the EQ..but better question is..what are your goals and stats?? as far as the nolva you dont have to take it throughout the cycle just keep in on hand if gyno creeps up on you ...other then that save it for PCT.

 

[Indy]

Wondered if I could get some opinions on my first cycle. Here is what was recommended to me:

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST ENAN
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid

Please only educated responses. If you think something should be different, please explain why your way would benefit me better. Remember...this is my first cycle. I don't want to go crazy my first time out.

You want an eduacated response, wipe the board clean and tell us your age, height, weight, bf% and we will go from there, your cycle is quite "uneducated" so we will forget about that, and let you start over appropriately.

 

[silverbackn]

I ran 500mg's of test and 300 of deca for my first.

 

[Extra_Strong]

Well i like test only as a 1st cycle..

But i dont see much fault in that cyle.. he has got his anit-e's good boy..

 

[tatman3177]

You want an eduacated response, wipe the board clean and tell us your age, height, weight, bf% and we will go from there, your cycle is quite "uneducated" so we will forget about that, and let you start over appropriately.

nicley put

 

[crunkjuice]

like extra_strong pointed out good job on getting with the anti-e's BEFORE you need them! I think it would be slightly counterproductive to run nolva the whole time, but use it if you start to get syno symptoms....some estrogen will help you grow but you dont want too much.... but if you run nolva all the way through you wont gain as much as you could.

 

[Indy]

Well i like test only as a 1st cycle..

But i dont see much fault in that cyle.. he has got his anit-e's good boy..

that's the problem, only looking at the cycle, what if is 14 years old, 95lbs with no hair between his legs ??? I'm not answering it, I can see by his posts he's a newbie here.

 

[shamrock11]

Run the test alone and use the nolva only if needed.

 

[Indy]

nicley put

Why doesn't that chick in your avatar deliver my gear !!! Gonna have to get on my source about that.

 

[shamrock11]

LOL yeah indy me too. Altyhough the DHL lady that deliveres here sometime is fine as hell

 

[crfpilot14]

You want an eduacated response, wipe the board clean and tell us your age, height, weight, bf% and we will go from there, your cycle is quite "uneducated" so we will forget about that, and let you start over appropriately.

how is this cycle uneducated? only thing i can see wrong is starting PCT a bit late. other than that, it looks solid. you may do things differently, but that doesnt mean it is uneducated. speaking of uneducated, your running over 2g of AAS with no anti-E/cabaser is as bad as it comes. no wonder you are getting gyno. this guy has already made up his mind on juicing. your chastising him will not change his mind on using. it will just shy him away from asking important questions on here down the road. who cares how much he weighs, or what his bf% is....or any other stat. 90% of the people on here are not contest BBers. everybody wants to hand out advice, but none practice what they preach.

 

[Indy]

how is this cycle uneducated? only thing i can see wrong is starting PCT a bit late. other than that, it looks solid. you may do things differently, but that doesnt mean it is uneducated. speaking of uneducated, your running over 2g of AAS with no anti-E/cabaser is as bad as it comes. no wonder you are getting gyno. this guy has already made up his mind on juicing. your chastising him will not change his mind on using. it will just shy him away from asking important questions on here down the road. who cares how much he weighs, or what his bf% is....or any other stat. 90% of the people on here are not contest BBers. everybody wants to hand out advice, but none practice what they preach.

Read my post DUMBASS, not true, there is a reason to wait on anti-e's not on pregesterone, doesn't my post say taking cabaser at normal dose, go fuck yourself I am really not in the mood for idiots like you, take a bomb, and there can be many more to follow !

 

[Indy]

how is this cycle uneducated? only thing i can see wrong is starting PCT a bit late. other than that, it looks solid. you may do things differently, but that doesnt mean it is uneducated. speaking of uneducated, your running over 2g of AAS with no anti-E/cabaser is as bad as it comes. no wonder you are getting gyno. this guy has already made up his mind on juicing. your chastising him will not change his mind on using. it will just shy him away from asking important questions on here down the road. who cares how much he weighs, or what his bf% is....or any other stat. 90% of the people on here are not contest BBers. everybody wants to hand out advice, but none practice what they preach.

let me re-iterate, you're just an idiot for thinking he can take any dose regardless of size, weight, and cycle history, you DONT jump into a good size multi compound cycle, with no history, you're the last one to be preaching to me

 

[Stacemranger]

how is this cycle uneducated? only thing i can see wrong is starting PCT a bit late. other than that, it looks solid. you may do things differently, but that doesnt mean it is uneducated. speaking of uneducated, your running over 2g of AAS with no anti-E/cabaser is as bad as it comes. no wonder you are getting gyno. this guy has already made up his mind on juicing. your chastising him will not change his mind on using. it will just shy him away from asking important questions on here down the road. who cares how much he weighs, or what his bf% is....or any other stat. 90% of the people on here are not contest BBers. everybody wants to hand out advice, but none practice what they preach.

If you read Indy's posts, you would know he didn't want to use Anti-e's on this cycle to try and gain as much as possible. He is using the cabaser for the deca sides.

 

[Indy]

If you read Indy's posts, you would know he didn't want to use Anti-e's on this cycle to try and gain as much as possible. He is using the cabaser for the deca sides.

thanks for reading before bashing, K to you bro !

 

[tatman3177]

Why doesn't that chick in your avatar deliver my gear !!! Gonna have to get on my source about that.

i love it when she comes knockin.....lol

 

[GatorMAG]

WOW....emotions flying in here. Sorry I didn't post my stats. I am a newbie to the gear but not to lifting weights. Here are my stats:

Age: 27
Height 5'11"
Weight 175lbs
Fat % 14%

Currently serving over in Iraq but will be home by X-mas. Cycle will start in January. I am taking 3 months off when I get home so I can dedicate all my time and energy to this cycle. My goal is not to compete. I have sort of plateau at where I am right now. I want the strength and mass to stick with me after the cycle. Does this make sense?

 

[Indy]

WOW....emotions flying in here. Sorry I didn't post my stats. I am a newbie to the gear but not to lifting weights. Here are my stats:

Age: 27
Height 5'11"
Weight 175lbs
Fat % 14%

Currently serving over in Iraq but will be home by X-mas. Cycle will start in January. I am taking 3 months off when I get home so I can dedicate all my time and energy to this cycle. My goal is not to compete. I have sort of plateau at where I am right now. I want the strength and mass to stick with me after the cycle. Does this make sense?

I would do 500mg test / week, single ester and leave it at that. Keep those ancilliaries on hand for sides you may find during cycle, and definately need after cycle for pct. Thats what I would run first time. Next time around add the eq in. We're just looking out for your best interest, some are not, those that dont, get bombed out of there, we dont need idiots like that.

 

[crfpilot14]

thanks for the bomb Indy...i was nice of you seeing that xmas is still a few months away. a test/deca cycle is a great first cycle. yes, you can be cautious and do a test only cycle, but it is not a must. 99% of people out there will not get sides from 400mg/wk of deca. but i understand your point of view. i misunderstood you on the cabaser, but not taking any anti-e on that much aromatizeable AAS is asking for trouble. yes, i am aware of what your plan was, but i am sure you can see it from my perspective.

 

[1UNDER]

You want an eduacated response, wipe the board clean and tell us your age, height, weight, bf% and we will go from there, your cycle is quite "uneducated" so we will forget about that, and let you start over appropriately.

Nicely put.

 

[asianlover]

go with test e 500mg/wk. that should give you all the size and strength you need, as long as you eat alot.

 

[crfpilot14]

Nicely put.

please explain this statement. i am sure that you are just trying not to rock the boat and get along...and not get bombed like i did for stating my opinion. please explain what is uneducated about the thread starters cycle. it may be uneducated as far as the gestapo on here are concerned, but there is nothing wrong with running test and deca/EQ as a first. ask the troll Indy69slomaro what his first was. guaranfuckingteed that it wasnt a test enanth only cycle like his cockholster is spewing. but anyway, i am done with this thread as it is useless...every single new guy to EF gets flamed instead of given correct info. somewhere someone started this test only crap as a first cycle. yes, you can grow on a test only cycle, but you can grow more on a test/deca cycle...at moderate doses of course. i think i will go back to AF where the men hang out and let the little girls like indy continue to think that they are a somebody...

 

[jumpshot]

The reason I'm running one compound at a time is to see how I react. For example sust at 250/wk gave me acne in pct I didn't like. Pretty soon here running primo for a while alone to see how that goes for my second. At some point next year it's a single ester test.

I just like to see how I react to everything individually...once I find a few I like it's stack time! Not in a big rush though, maybe some people are.

 

[bnutty187]

I like what Jumpshot said, testing this out. What we all have to remember and we do this from time to time is that this is a marathon and it's our bodies so we should be carefull. Will the guy be fine on test/deca or test/eq? Probably, however why not be safe than sorry!! As far as the stats, you know when I first came to this board I read big time, I did not post until I was here and read thru the stuff that I should have (sticky's) hell one even says for newbies to read!! If you just jump right on and do no research and go asking dumb questions then you may get flamed a little. Indy didn't go off the deep end, maybe he could have been a little "softer" with things but hey how many times has someone just been completely sick of the same damn thing happening over and over again and just simply put got to the point? IMO that's all the guy did and this clown crfpilot14 goes nuts, well I'm sorry bro but if you have that kind of attitude all the time we really don't need you here.

Gator all in all, my first 2 cycles were just test, my next is going to be eq/test with t-bol to kick it off. Not to sound like a broken record here but test-e or cyp would be a great first cycle with dbol for the first 4 weeks to kick it off. My boy just got off it and he was up just over 40lbs on a 16 weeker!!

What ever you plan on doing keep us updated. Good luck over there, I know it sucks, my brother-in-law just got back. He was in Kuwait and it's no where near as bad as Iraq so keep safe and have fun on the cycle when you return.