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Poll: Faustian Bargain?
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Gambino
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wtf expand
javaguru
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Ok, I'll make it easy. One traditional idea of the Faustian bargain is the "deal with the devil." In exchange for your soul you get whatever you desire.
Goethe's Faust is a slight twist on the basic idea;
"The story concerns the fate of Faust in his quest for the true essence of life ("was die Welt im Innersten zusammenhält"). Frustrated with learning and the limits to his knowledge and power he attracts the attention of the Devil (represented by Mephistopheles), whom Faust bargains with to serve until that moment Faust attains the zenith of human happiness, when Mephistopheles may take his soul. Goethe's Faust is pleased with the deal as he believes the moment will never come."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethe's_Faust
Goethe's Faust is a slight twist on the basic idea;
"The story concerns the fate of Faust in his quest for the true essence of life ("was die Welt im Innersten zusammenhält"). Frustrated with learning and the limits to his knowledge and power he attracts the attention of the Devil (represented by Mephistopheles), whom Faust bargains with to serve until that moment Faust attains the zenith of human happiness, when Mephistopheles may take his soul. Goethe's Faust is pleased with the deal as he believes the moment will never come."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethe's_Faust
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Gambino
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fuck that never!
a lifetime in hell is worth no mortal pleasure!
a lifetime in hell is worth no mortal pleasure!
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Gambino
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because he never felt he could obtain the zenith of happiness?javaguru said:
javaguru said:
WTF? You didn't say models were involved. Then Fuck YES!
redsamurai
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my soul is mine, and mine only.........no amount of whores could make me give it up.
javaguru
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Yes, and you should consider "hell" the fire and brimstone type manufactured by the Christian church via Dante's "Divine Comedy" and some early non-biblical Christian writings. The New Testament is unclear and contradictory and one original idea was that it was simply separation from God. In Goethe's work, Faust is forgiven by the spirits of the earth and enters the world of the classical Gods. It is far from a completely Christian based work.Gambino said:
javaguru
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In Goethe's Faust, the one moment of happiness is reached when all war, human suffering etc ends and nature itself experiences a moment of happiness. The only thing I am changing is the ending, which is too easy, you actually have to go serve in hell(be separate from God).redsamurai said:
javaguru
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"I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't have to spend my whole life fearing hell, or fearing heaven even more. For whatever the tortures of hell, I think the boredom of heaven would be even worse." - Issac Asimovanthrax said:Yes
Of course
Because Hell is pure religious invention
"Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company." - Mark Twain
"Bush is the Devil!"
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Gambino
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java check out my chest thread plz
vixensghost
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Hell is truth seen too late.
mountain muscle
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Like you have ever read Goethe.
Did you find something on youtube java?
Did you find something on youtube java?
mountain muscle
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javaguru said:I was a philosophy minor in college.....
Are there many philosophy mines in Ohio?
i prefer the ambiguity of Marlowe's Dr. Faustus (plus less effort to read)
