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I have searched for information on this website for a long time but I have never posted. Theres alot of usefull information here. Im about to start my second cycle and I would appreciate some help. Well first of all let me explain what happend my first cycle. I was taking dbol and deca and did so for about 5 weeks but then I found out I had to have corrective jaw surgery. Im 22 years old, 6' and I weighed 170, I went up to 185....I was seeing some real progress. But I had to stop midcycle because of my surgery and then I was put on a liquid diet for 6 weeks after I had the surgery. Im sure all of you can guess what happend to my gains.
Now im ready to get back in the gym and I want to start a second cycle. Im planning to keep it the same as the first because it worked well. Im going to pyramid dbol for 6 weeks, getting up 30mg a day. Deca 300 mg a week. I think for my second cycle this should be good right? Im not exactly sure what my pct should be like. I have nolva and HCG already but im not sure when and where to use it with my cycle. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
No need to pyramid the dbol. Just run it at 30mg a day. 5wks of dbol should be more than enough. I would think about adding in some test, but if you're gonna do deca only I'd up the dose to 400mg. If you're gonna use hcg, start it the week after your last deca shot. Then run clomid or nolva for pct and you'll be fine.
 
just do you a simple 8-10 week run with the deca and d-bol with some test e or cyp. 30mg/dy of the oral like you said and 300 of the deca /week also. with the test i'd go 500/week with your deca dose. get hcg, nolva, clomid for pct.
wk 1-10 test
wk 1-10 deca
wk 1-4 d-bol or all the way through if you wanted. keep nolva close by.
wk 12 2500iu hcg every 5 days x 2, then down to 1500iu every 5 days x 3
clomid start with hcg at 100/day for 1 week then go down to 50/day 4 weeks
 
I wasnt sure whether adding test was too much for my 1st real full cycle. But honestly I like the sound of your guys cycle. Dbol, deca and test....damn im gona blow up. Last time i gained 15 lbs in 5 weeks with just dbol and deca....if i add in test and go the full 10 weeks......hell yea.
 
run test with deca, i would run test prop along side it, prop is fast acting deca is slow, so you get both esters, but run a test with deca, any test if need be... doesnt matter test is test, i just like prop cus its fast, dbol you dont really need to pyramid, but ive pyramid dbol before too, works just fine, deca would be ok at 300mg as long as you run 400mg of test, AT LEAST 375mg, deca can have a very undesireble side effect called deca dick you avoid this by adding test, do your reasearch more... and have a pct of nolva and clomid start 1 1/2-2weeks after last deca shot... run for 3-4weeks, luck man..
 
there the same thing, there both test, test is test, they differ from the fact that sust has 4differnt kinds of test in it, a long acting ester, 2medium acting esters, and a short acting ester, to keep your blood levels suststaind for up to several weeks if not more, but you still need to take your weekly injections, and test E, CYP, or PROP or SUSP, there all single esters, they only contain that one ester of test, E and CYP are about the same long esters stay active for several weeks take a weekly injection, Prop is faster acting will hit you quicker and will peak in blook w/in 36hrs, although i feel it the next day, SUSP peaks within hrs, its recommended for 2injections daily to keep blood levels sustained... so to answer your question, there the same thing, sust and test... sust is just fancy..
 
Islandkurry said:
I have searched for information on this website for a long time but I have never posted. Theres alot of usefull information here. Im about to start my second cycle and I would appreciate some help. Well first of all let me explain what happend my first cycle. I was taking dbol and deca and did so for about 5 weeks but then I found out I had to have corrective jaw surgery. Im 22 years old, 6' and I weighed 170, I went up to 185....I was seeing some real progress. But I had to stop midcycle because of my surgery and then I was put on a liquid diet for 6 weeks after I had the surgery. Im sure all of you can guess what happend to my gains.
Now im ready to get back in the gym and I want to start a second cycle. Im planning to keep it the same as the first because it worked well. Im going to pyramid dbol for 6 weeks, getting up 30mg a day. Deca 300 mg a week. I think for my second cycle this should be good right? Im not exactly sure what my pct should be like. I have nolva and HCG already but im not sure when and where to use it with my cycle. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If I read your post right, you said you are "wanting to get back into the gym". I would get back into the gym and lift for 8-10 months to get back what you lost (or as much of that as possible) before starting any cycle. Muscle memory is a good thing.
 
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