Plleeeaaasseee -- Do Not

[Citruscide]

Please, do not make any sort of references to people who may or may not sell, purchase, or contribute in anyway to the moving of any controlled substance or illegal contraband.

I will not hesitate to delete these posts...

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

is this some new policy or something ?



haha j/k bro

 

[brotheriron]

My thread asking for a web address of a pharmacutical company got deleted. No im not being an asshole but just because its illegal in your county doent mean it is in mine. Whats the harm in giving a web address? If it isnt legal to purchase dont fuckin buy it!
People should be more helpful when it comes to sources/suppliers, to eliminate all the fake shit flying around. I order gear from all the manufacturers, and its alot cheaper.

 

[Frackal]

Hey sally, this board is based in the united states, and we base our policies on that...don't like it? Get the fuck out.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Hey sally, this board is based in the united states, and we base our policies on that...don't like it? Get the fuck out.

Now theres a shitty attitude for ya.............

BTW 'we' dont base 'our' policies on anything. GS might have policies........'WE' do not.

Brotheriron,
Don't worry about the assholes. Frack is probably just kissing butt and trying to throw his weight around because he thinks he'll become a mod quicker this way.

 

[baby_bbol]

Its pretty simple, read the rules of the board and follow them. That means no source postings....etc....No one is forcing you to post and read here, its really a luxury, so if you cant follow the rules you should probably find a new place to linger.

I believe if a person tries it once, give them a warning, do it twice, ban them. This is serious stuff here and thats how people get busted. Use secure email and email a mod, you should get the answers you need that way.

And I could give a rats ass about being a moderator, it just common sense.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Well you put that very well. That is all that had to be said.......it just had to be put firmly and fairly. No name calling was required and no telling people to 'get the fuck out'.

Its pretty simple, read the rules of the board and follow them. That means no source postings....etc....No one is forcing you to post and read here, its really a luxury, so if you cant follow the rules you should probably find a new place to linger.

I believe if a person tries it once, give them a warning, do it twice, ban them. This is serious stuff here and thats how people get busted. Use secure email and email a mod, you should get the answers you need that way.

And I could give a rats ass about being a moderator, it just common sense.

 

[Wrongun]

Well said IMHO Imnotdutch

Wrongun!

 

[T Bone]

Fired up and ready to go!

Nice to see everyone is fired up and testy this morning!

Rules are rules. Simple.

T Bone

 

[Riker29]

I agree with all of these (except for the whiner who wants to be able to post sources).

And I dont think Frackal was out-of-line at all. I mean, what is this ... some 12-step program, or sensitivity training? Shall we all sit and discuss our feelwings? Maybe tune into Oprah for a while?

If anything, many people have become TOO lax in providing source info behind-the-scenes, giving info to kids (who will hurt themselves and create problems for us, remember the dumbass that died on DNP?), and having too much confidence in the "source checks" (remember how many guys were burned not too long ago because some soyurces went bed or turned?).

This is such a great resource, that for new people to show up and whine about what the cannot do is ridiculous. IMHO, if they do not like it, they CAN get the F out.

Besides, this is all hypothetical anyway, none of us use any of this, We are all just bullshitting.

 

[kronk]

Well said Riker.

All that being said, we must remember that not only are these types of posts against board rules, but you can add to that PRICE CHECKS. Please keep this activity off the boards.

What ALL members need to understand is that this board is for entertainment purposes. We lock down and delete threads for the protection of our members. How many other sites out there care about its members this way? When legal pressure hit us once, we hired a top notch lawyer to defend our members rights! How many other boards would have done that for you?

Remember, we have these rules to protect you from people taking this role playing seriously. All of this is just for entertainment purposes.

Good post Citrus.

 

[Silent Method]

Please, do not make any sort of references to people who may or may not sell, purchase, or contribute in anyway to the moving of any controlled substance or illegal contraband.

I will not hesitate to delete these posts...

C-ditty

You're going to have to delete a huge number of the posts on this board bro.

"I've got test, fina, and d-bol - how do I stack them?" "My test and winny cycle is going well." I'm going to try A-bombs on my next cycle."

Posts like these are more common than ants in the Amazon. All of these imply the purchase of controlled substance. Even if we all talk in the third person, such as "my friend's sister's former room mate had a great experience with d-bol, we are still making reference to the purchase or other wise contribution to the moving of controlled substances.

If we follow your rules strictly, the conversation here must be kept to pharmacology and strict drug theory.

I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, but if enforced as you have outlined, this is a radical change, not necessarily in written policy, but in board practice.

If enforced as you specify, I predict many hundreds of posts which you will have to delete.

 

[kronk]

SM, I think you may have misread C's post.

He says "references to people who may or may not sell, purchase, or contribute in anyway to the moving of any controlled substance or illegal contraband".

He is talking about sources (people who may or may not sell, etc)

 

[Silent Method]

SM, I think you may have misread C's post.

He says "references to people who may or may not sell, purchase, or contribute in anyway to the moving of any controlled substance or illegal contraband".

He is talking about sources (people who may or may not sell, etc)

No, I read it correctly. Several times.

"Please, do not make any sort of references to people who may or may not sell, purchase, or contribute in anyway to the moving of any controlled substance or illegal contraband."

Buying gear for personal use qualifies as purchase, and contribution to the movement of controlled substance or illegal contraband. Merely possessing such items implies purchase and contribution to the movement of such substances.

 

[Citruscide]

No, I read it correctly. Several times.

"Please, do not make any sort of references to people who may or may not sell, purchase, or contribute in anyway to the moving of any controlled substance or illegal contraband."

Buying gear for personal use qualifies as purchase, and contribution to the movement of controlled substance or illegal contraband. Merely possessing such items implies purchase and contribution to the movement of such substances.

No... possession is not the contribution to the movement of the substance. It is POSSESSION.

For example, in the United States, you have the right ot posess pornography, but not the right to PURCHASE it.

If someone is talking about buying it here, locked. Someone is talking about HAVING it here... no problem.

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

Now theres a shitty attitude for ya.............

BTW 'we' dont base 'our' policies on anything. GS might have policies........'WE' do not.

Brotheriron,
Don't worry about the assholes. Frack is probably just kissing butt and trying to throw his weight around because he thinks he'll become a mod quicker this way.

Perhaps it was rude but his post struck me as whiny and demanding. If he had read any of the rules in the 'stickies' before posting his thread then I'm sure he wouldn't have had to ask that question in the first place...if he had read the rules AFTER the post then he wouldnt have had to ask the question.

As for 'our' policies, they are based on the assumption that gear is illegal, which it is in the US. This is done because the board and a fair portion of the members are based here.

As for acting like an asshole, I'll take your word for it, as you do a far better job of potraying one then I.

 

[Johnny Cut]

hey can you give me a source...............to buy porn, lol jk bro, good post, although this information has been covored before, sad that people still dont read the rules, first thing i noticed was those stickys at the top when i finally registered.....maybe we can make them size 45 font or somethin

 

[Sinistar]

wait a fucking second

im he biggest asshole at elite, and frack is my VP. i will not have that crown taken from me.

citrus, i implied you were a source in you roast thread. nim pretty sure no one was thinking of me when this post was formed, but none the less i feel the need to tell everyone that citrus isnt a source for anything but misery.

however, he will help you transfer money to the Cayman Brac.

 

[brotheriron]

I wasnt whining or demanding. So no need for the get the fuck out. I post on this board to give you americans a different view on your so called facts about gear. And i ask questions to find an alternative opinion about the uk beliefs.

Now, bodybuilding in my eyes is about training hard, eating well and taking drugs. And anyone who asks me for help will recieve it. And i expect the same in return. Not much too ask.

Its not unreasonable to assume everyone on here takes steroids. And looking at web sites is not illegal, even if the products they sell are. So where is the harm in giving a web address for a steroid manufacturer. I'll give anyone the web ad's if they ask, for GH SLIN etc etc i dont care, it better than them taking fake shit.

Ban me for all i care, but dont try to be so patronising.
Bro

 

[cyp]

No... possession is not the contribution to the movement of the substance. It is POSSESSION.

For example, in the United States, you have the right ot posess pornography, but not the right to PURCHASE it.

If someone is talking about buying it here, locked. Someone is talking about HAVING it here... no problem.

C-ditty

Not to beat a dead horse, but I must side with Silent Method on this one. In the eyes of the government, possession does contribute to the movement of controlled substances. If it didn't, Congress wouldn't be able to ban mere possession under the commerce clause.

 

[Canuck4]

I agree.
It dont matter what country you live or if its legal or not.
We have rules here. If you cant follow them then dont stay here.
What Im trying to say is:

Perhaps it was rude but his post struck me as whiny and demanding. If he had read any of the rules in the 'stickies' before posting his thread then I'm sure he wouldn't have had to ask that question in the first place...if he had read the rules AFTER the post then he wouldnt have had to ask the question.

As for 'our' policies, they are based on the assumption that gear is illegal, which it is in the US. This is done because the board and a fair portion of the members are based here.

As for acting like an asshole, I'll take your word for it, as you do a far better job of potraying one then I.

 

[Zoomster]

Hey look, I was the one of the ones guilty as charged yesterday when I posted about Anavar prices. I was one of those posts that started with good intentions and did get out there beyond the rules.

I was wrong by continuing the thread once we got into prices.

Kronk locked it down, as he should have.

I am just as concerned about security and safety for all as anyone on the board..source checking and price checking have no place here.

As far as other comments about different words used, hey we are all human and we get caught up in the dynamics of the situation.

Grow up, we are all part of the board.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ok to deal with your points in order.......

1) Agreed but no need to be a prick about it. Just put him straight politely and its a job well done.

2) Did I disagree with the fact that most members are in the USA or the sensitivity of the issues? NO. Re-read your other post and you will se that the 'we' you refer to is the board not the entire USA. As far as I am aware you do not set the boards policies so the 'we' was wrong.

3) Aw cry baby Frackal is getting all sensitive now that somebody puts him straight (shame you weren't sensitive enough to post a decent reply earlier). Was it me that started name calling or telling people to get the fuck out? Uh nope. This is a common tactic of yours when you have to face the POSSIBILITY of being wrong. I guess cognitive conflict makes people react in weird ways sometimes. It even makes that pseudo-intelligent front that you like to put on slip. Ok I'm ready..........flame away.

Disclaimer: I apologise to the other board members for acting like a jerk on this thread. However, I feel this jackass asked for it. I will try to control myself in the future.

Perhaps it was rude but his post struck me as whiny and demanding. If he had read any of the rules in the 'stickies' before posting his thread then I'm sure he wouldn't have had to ask that question in the first place...if he had read the rules AFTER the post then he wouldnt have had to ask the question.

As for 'our' policies, they are based on the assumption that gear is illegal, which it is in the US. This is done because the board and a fair portion of the members are based here.

As for acting like an asshole, I'll take your word for it, as you do a far better job of potraying one then I.

 

[Zoomster]

Disclaimer: I apologise to the other board members for acting like a jerk on this thread. However, I feel this jackass asked for it. I will try to control myself in the future.

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You owe noone an apology. We have all been there at one time or another, and if not then great.

The only people that do not make mistakes are the ones that don't do anything!

 

[Imnotdutch]

Brotheriron,

I'm in the Uk so I understand where you are coming from. However, this board does have rules. These rules are put there to protect members. Please respect the rules even if you disagree with them.

Oh and I agree with you about the tone of some of the replies...........don't worry about the jackasses because there are some quality members here.

I wasnt whining or demanding. So no need for the get the fuck out. I post on this board to give you americans a different view on your so called facts about gear. And i ask questions to find an alternative opinion about the uk beliefs.

Now, bodybuilding in my eyes is about training hard, eating well and taking drugs. And anyone who asks me for help will recieve it. And i expect the same in return. Not much too ask.

Its not unreasonable to assume everyone on here takes steroids. And looking at web sites is not illegal, even if the products they sell are. So where is the harm in giving a web address for a steroid manufacturer. I'll give anyone the web ad's if they ask, for GH SLIN etc etc i dont care, it better than them taking fake shit.

Ban me for all i care, but dont try to be so patronising.
Bro

 

[Citruscide]

Guys... you are missing the point of this thread... please, read it for what it is worth... We are using US law, not Mexican, Greek or other laws where this stuff may be legal...

Thank you

C-ditty

 

[Zoomster]

Guys... you are missing the point of this thread... please, read it for what it is worth... We are using US law, not Mexican, Greek or other laws where this stuff may be legal...

Thank you

C-ditty

This is very true, unfortunate..but true.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Re: arguing.jpg

lol point taken

Lets get back to Citruscides original point:

PLAY BY THE RULES OR DONT PLAY AT ALL.

JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Citruscide]

CharlesAtLast -- please refrain from using that picture in reference to other members.


Thank you

C-ditty

 

[Silent Method]

No... possession is not the contribution to the movement of the substance. It is POSSESSION.

I understand your point.

In reference to the possession of drugs which are illegal without a prescription, especially those which are not imported to this country by any legal means, it is only rational to conclude either purchase or other means contribution to the movement of the given substance(s).

However, as you said, possession does not equal purchase or other contribution to the movement of the substance.


Having split that hair, I assume statments such as "what should I get for my next cycle" are out. After all, does this not imply that one "may or may not" purchase such substances?


BTW, I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but look around. Every other thread on here carries the implication that someone may or may not purchase or contribute to the moving of controlled substances or illegal contraband.

 

[Citruscide]

I understand your point.

In reference to the possession of drugs which are illegal without a prescription, especially those which are not imported to this country by any legal means, it is only rational to conclude either purchase or other means contribution to the movement of the given substance(s).

However, as you said, possession does not equal purchase or other contribution to the movement of the substance.


Having split that hair, I assume statments such as "what should I get for my next cycle" are out. After all, does this not imply that one "may or may not" purchase such substances?


BTW, I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but look around. Every other thread on here carries the implication that someone may or may not purchase or contribute to the moving of controlled substances or illegal contraband.

Listen. this is an informational site... for the education of it's users... someone who asks about a particular cycle will be educated... not information on how to OBTAIN.

We are here to educate people on what would be more effective, theoretically, for a cycle.. .dosages amounts.

I see no logical or rational connection between that and the purchase of steroids.

C-ditty

 

[Silent Method]

Listen. this is an informational site... for the education of it's users... someone who asks about a particular cycle will be educated... not information on how to OBTAIN.

We are here to educate people on what would be more effective, theoretically, for a cycle.. .dosages amounts.

I see no logical or rational connection between that and the purchase of steroids.

C-ditty

That's good enough for me bro. Just needed clarification on the ideas that I read into your post.

 

[brotheriron]

Information like the web ad's for the main steroid manufacturers would be beneficial to all those who may take them. It would give everyone a chance to look at prices, pictures, dosages etc in a 'theoretical' mind. If a person is foolish enough to try and order them its their own problem.
But that kind of info, which is extremely useful, is somehow not good enough or seen to be a big taboo for this board.
Anyone know a board thats not afraid to give info?
Bro

 

[Riker29]

I cant believe that some of you are SO sensitive as to have been "offended" by anything that was said in this thread.

I'm sorry, is this a bodybuilding board or some sort of 12-step group?

No one did anything offensive here, really. If someone TOOK offense, than you CHOSE to TAKE offense. Thats different. Thats YOUR problem.

Too many people are a bit to whiny on here about having their feelings hurt. Boo hoo, grab your wokout towel and wipe your eyes. LOL (just joking, probably 3 guys will whine that this was too mean.)

Its a bodybuilding board. Its free (or can be). If you dont like the way its run, there are many alternatives.

The rules are there for good reasons. Thet dont need to be "explained" and justified to every new person that shows up and takes issue with them. If they did, then half of the questions would be people whining about the rules!

The board has run the way it has run for quite a while, and much longer than many people here have been members. So, maybe ... just maybe ... the rules and the guidelines for conduct actually DO have some merit and should be respected?

Maybe the Mods are Mods because they know what the rules are, and they do what's best for the board, and the majority of members?

Maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt, and not get all bitchy when maye they err of the side of caution?

Just a thought.

 

[kronk]

Anyone know a board thats not afraid to give info?
Bro

Yea sure...Oh wait, no that one closed down...Hmmm, oh yea..oh wait, do they got taken over by the Feds...Oh wait I know...Oh no they are out of business.

There are sites that pop up everyday, and then close down BECAUSE of the fact that they allow this type of behavior.

As far as your statement "look at prices, pictures, dosages etc in a 'theoretical' mind." That is just what this board is here for. We are the largest site on the web like this with MILLIONS of pages of information. Take the time to do the research and you will get these types of answers.

Really, we value you as a member and I really want to help. PLEASE just try and understand that we are a site of over 40,000 members. We do everything possible to protect our members from making stupid mistakes. We have millions and millions of pages of information to research and answer your questions. Rather than take time to try and fight our protection of members, maybe you should spend that time using the search feature to look things up and get your answers. I will PROMISE you, there is not a site on this PLANET with as much information as we have here.

All that being said, can we please just get back to the protection of our members. Thank you very much for your participation here.

 

[brotheriron]

Point taken. But i would rather find out from manufacturers than look at someones pictures on a politically correct board.

I was looking for a manuf but unlike most it didnt come up on any of the search engines. I just needed the address. If this board cannot disclose that kind of info then fair enough. Im sorry for trying.

You lot talk about these rules, but i know the differences in price from the manufacturers, so chances are some of you sell gear and are scared people will realise the prices are way too steep. All the people in the uk could save thousands of pounds if they knew where to look but they cannot ask here. It only bothers me because i was sent numerous emails offering gear to me from people from this board, and the prices were over ten times what the things were worth. Just cos im on the net dosent mean im desperate to buy


Bro

 

[Citruscide]

Point taken. But i would rather find out from manufacturers than look at someones pictures on a politically correct board.

I was looking for a manuf but unlike most it didnt come up on any of the search engines. I just needed the address. If this board cannot disclose that kind of info then fair enough. Im sorry for trying.

You lot talk about these rules, but i know the differences in price from the manufacturers, so chances are some of you sell gear and are scared people will realise the prices are way too steep. All the people in the uk could save thousands of pounds if they knew where to look but they cannot ask here. It only bothers me because i was sent numerous emails offering gear to me from people from this board, and the prices were over ten times what the things were worth. Just cos im on the net dosent mean im desperate to buy


Bro

George Spellwin offers many online books that discuss in great detail many things that people spend HOURS and HOURS searching for on the net... you should check them out, they are WELL worth the read and education...

He also publishes reports... these are very informative.

C-ditty

 

[Tigrones]

Great Thread!
As a newbie, it reminds me how important is to respect the board and its rules.
You guys are here to help and guide and that is appreciated. We must be informed and educated on the subject, whatever we do or not do outside this board should remain private.
Great entertaining site, keep up the good work!

 

[bwood]

For example, in the United States, you have the right ot posess pornography, but not the right to PURCHASE it.


C-ditty

elaborate please...

did you mean that jurisdictions can ban selling it?

 

[Frackal]

Ok to deal with your points in order.......


2) Did I disagree with the fact that most members are in the USA or the sensitivity of the issues? NO. Re-read your other post and you will se that the 'we' you refer to is the board not the entire USA. As far as I am aware you do not set the boards policies so the 'we' was wrong.

3) Aw cry baby Frackal is getting all sensitive now that somebody puts him straight (shame you weren't sensitive enough to post a decent reply earlier). Was it me that started name calling or telling people to get the fuck out? Uh nope. This is a common tactic of yours when you have to face the POSSIBILITY of being wrong. I guess cognitive conflict makes people react in weird ways sometimes. It even makes that pseudo-intelligent front that you like to put on slip. Ok I'm ready..........flame away.

Disclaimer: I apologise to the other board members for acting like a jerk on this thread. However, I feel this jackass asked for it. I will try to control myself in the future.

This is mostly a waste of time but I should probably address it to clear a few things up.

2. I guess I'll try one last time to clarify this... when I say WE, I do mean the entire board....all the members... WE (the board) have rules that 'we' set and that 'we' follow.

No, I do not set the board's policies, but I do follow them..as do you as far as I know...that is what I meant by we...hopefully this makes more sense.

3. In my view I was responding in an assholish manner to a post I considered to be 'assholish' as well.... If he did not mean it in that way, than I apologize for the overreaction...but I took it as being meant in an offensive way. After just reading it again, I admit my post was a little overly abusive, and do apologize for that, whether or not he meant to be the same with his. I have little problem admitting when I'm wrong, just ask puc.

Now finally, I have to ask this out of sheer curiousity.... do you pay some sort of extra amount of attention to me? There are at least a thousand active posters here on any given day yet you were able to discern that:

"This is a common tactic of yours when you have to face the POSSIBILITY of being wrong"

and

"makes that pseudo-intelligent front that you like to put on slip."

I do recall that we argued about something in the past, maybe that is the reason for your scrutiny... as for me being pseudo-intelligent, well, if I'm faking smarts, then I hope I'm smart enough to fake them well.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ok I got point 2.........

Looks like 3 is settled too.

Now for the rest.........
No I dont pay special attention to anybody on this site. The topics you post about just happen to be ones I read about. There are many people here who's posts I have read for a long time......you just happen to be one of them (Manny78 is another, for example). It doesn't help that I happen to disagree with you a lot of the time (for example, on proof that ET exists). Oh, and lets face it you are a pretty prolific poster.

Hope that clears that up for you.

This is mostly a waste of time but I should probably address it to clear a few things up.

2. I guess I'll try one last time to clarify this... when I say WE, I do mean the entire board....all the members... WE (the board) have rules that 'we' set and that 'we' follow.

No, I do not set the board's policies, but I do follow them..as do you as far as I know...that is what I meant by we...hopefully this makes more sense.

3. In my view I was responding in an assholish manner to a post I considered to be 'assholish' as well.... If he did not mean it in that way, than I apologize for the overreaction...but I took it as being meant in an offensive way. After just reading it again, I admit my post was a little overly abusive, and do apologize for that, whether or not he meant to be the same with his. I have little problem admitting when I'm wrong, just ask puc.

Now finally, I have to ask this out of sheer curiousity.... do you pay some sort of extra amount of attention to me? There are at least a thousand active posters here on any given day yet you were able to discern that:

"This is a common tactic of yours when you have to face the POSSIBILITY of being wrong"

and

"makes that pseudo-intelligent front that you like to put on slip."

I do recall that we argued about something in the past, maybe that is the reason for your scrutiny... as for me being pseudo-intelligent, well, if I'm faking smarts, then I hope I'm smart enough to fake them well.

 

[calf boy]

This thread is great!!! It shows who's not on Clomid and who's taking too much. But there are rules guys and that is for OUR protection, the people that put this board together and the one's that share this info. You have to assume that the US government is looking at this, and they can easily find out who you are from your computer. We don't need any extra attention!!!!!! So lets keep it simple no sources period (but feel free to pm your sources to me. hehe). You are an invited guest into their house so don't piss on the floor. I understand where you guys are coming from but you can't get your answers here thats all. Now lets all have a group hug. <------ Clomid kicking in!!!