Please look at this cycle and help me make last min changes!

[madmatt]

Products obtained for 1st cycle:

qty. 1 QV Deca 300 10ml vial
qty. 2 TT Test Cyp. 200 10ml vials
30 tabs of Clomid
30 tabs of 20mg Tamoxifen (Nolvadex)
100 tabs of 2.5mg Bromo

I will take 150mg of Deca and 200mg of Test Cyp. every Monday and Thursday for 10 weeks. 3 weeks after the last shot I will take 100mg of Clomid for 10 days and will take 50mg daily for the following 10 days.

If I start to have problems with prolactin, from the deca, I will take 5mg of Bromo in the morning with food, ED. I will purchase more if I need to. I am hoping I want have to! If I start to get gyno and do not have a bad prolactin problem then I will start taking 10mg of Nolva everyday.

I have choose to eat the clean calories first and make up the rest with shit like tuna helper, subs and anything els I can eat.

I am currently 5'6" and weigh 175lbs. What can I expect to gain if I train, eat, and sleep good?

Thank everyone!

 

[The Terminator]

Clean calories...hahaha. I love reading that, only because I have to eat atleast 5000 calories a day to gain any weight while on, so clean is well...pretty difficult. Stick to calorie dense foods.

 

[madmatt]

Who am I kidding? Eating clean will last for about a week! This really is not a concern to me though. This is my first time around. Therefore, I figured I would work on loosing some fat before my next one. Hell, I'm only 22. What could I expect to gain eating 5000 cals. daily? LOL! Thanks Bro!

 

[The Terminator]

You could gain anywhere from 5 to maybe even 35 lbs. depending on your diet, metabolism, if it's all in place and you don't burn calories like a furnace (much like I do ) then anywhere in that range is feasible...for me just eating enough is always the biggest obstacle.

 

[madmatt]

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[jc21]

Clean calories...hahaha. I love reading that, only because I have to eat atleast 5000 calories a day to gain any weight while on, so clean is well...pretty difficult. Stick to calorie dense foods.

damn 5000 calories is usually the amount i take for the first half of my diet for shows. takes me 7k to gain weight


but nice cycle bro...i wouldnt change a thing. you must have did a lot of research.

 

[madmatt]

I really think that some people undermind how serious fucking with your hormones can be. After all the research I still feel like I am doing it half ass. From here on out my knowledge must come from experience! For once I have the experience I will have completely new areas of interest to study. I highly encourage everyone especially the new comers to take your time and read!


I am asking anyone with any concern about this cycle to speak up. Please!

 

[Racer-X99]

I really think that some people undermind how serious fucking with your hormones can be. After all the research I still feel like I am doing it half ass. From here on out my knowledge must come from experience! For once I have the experience I will have completely new areas of interest to study. I highly encourage everyone especially the new comers to take your time and read!


I am asking anyone with any concern about this cycle to speak up. Please!

Yes, it is very serious. Most people don't think about all that goes into a good cycle. You need to be concerned about the police, your hair, your prostate, acne, aggression, etc. I tell people all the time on the boards to be educated before they make the leap and I mean educated in every way. If you play the game right and lift hard you will be happy with the dark side.

Your cycle is fairly light and you will probably not have to worry about gyno unless you are prone to it. I was just running 500mg of enanth/week and had no signs at all, but others get gyno from 200mg/week. I would not take the anti-e's unless you need it. There are some that feel they may hinder some gains. That is very individual.

You may need to get another bottle of cyp. as you will never get all that is in the bottle out of the bottle assuming the bottle is not underfilled at all. Do your research and don't be afraid to ask educated questions. That is the purpose of the board.

Good luck!

 

[madmatt]

I would like to know exactly how the sides of Nolvadex compare to the sides of clomid. I know that clomid has some sides. And I also understand that many think they are from the hormonal changes post cycle. Bill Llewellyn discuses the use of Nolva post cycle. He says that Clomid and Nolvadex or interchangable. Since there is a good chance I will have Nolvadex left over I am thinking about taking Nolvadex instead.

Are the sides of Nolvadex any easier then the sides of Clomid?

Does anyone see a problem with using Nolva instead of Clomid?

Any personal stories?

 

[The Terminator]

damn 5000 calories is usually the amount i take for the first half of my diet for shows. takes me 7k to gain weight


but nice cycle bro...i wouldnt change a thing. you must have did a lot of research.

Damn JC that is alot of food...I seriously thought my metabolism was the fastest around, but you've got me beat (I don't envy that...yet) but you are younger and bigger (I'm only 190) so maybe you'll get lucky and it will slow down in the future. BTW you have one of the most admirable physiques I have seen.

 

[madmatt]

Bump! For info on the Nolva replaces Clomid bit!

 

[The Terminator]

Bump! For info on the Nolva replaces Clomid bit!

You mean for post cycle recovery? I am going to use both next time because clomid has always been effective for me, but I don't see the problem with using nolva as well....it's been getting alot of debate here lately as to what is better, so I figure why not just use both?? The faster I can get my natty test back up the better.

 

[hard as rocks]

ha ha i look at food and i grow.for me i have too eat extremely clean and too diet down.bulking is the easy part lol

 

[madmatt]

What's up with this shit? I am a hard working bro! I take my shit seriously and want some advice! Is this a good cycle or not? I know for a fact that there are some people out here that know their shit! Save the small talk. Please!!! Is this a good cyle or not! What goes around comes around. What you guys say now will affect us all in the long run. Is it not important to start the newbies out right.


I would like to thank everyone above for putting in their 2 cents! Will some one give me support before I stick this shit in my ass?


I thank all the die hard fans on this board!

 

[Dirty Boy]

You mentioned you'll take bromo if the prolactin is bothering you and arimidex if you get estro gyno. How can you tell the difference between prolactin induced gyno and estro induced gyno?

 

[madmatt]

If I start lactating really bad then I will start the Bromo. It takes 2 wks to kick in. Therefore, I am taking a risk going this route. If I start noticing a lot of discomfort, from gyno, I will start the Nolvadex.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

Cycle looks pretty solid. Go with it. Eat.