Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hi all, Ive been using dbol for 7mos 20mg a day. I know im stupid for doing it. I tried once to go off but i was crippled with the crying and loss of appetite etc. I milk thistle every day and drink a ton of water. I have 20 days left and i am already getting anxiety over stopping (girlfriends orders) Is there any legal way to help me through the loss of test loss? is 60xo good?? please its killin me appreciate any feedback. yes im stupid for not taking propper break but its already done. Thanks guys!!
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- Thread starter joyzeeboy
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First off, begin cutting back. Go to 15 mgs for a few days, then 10, etc.
Get this: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=110&cat=0&page=1
You may need HCG but any way you slice it, you're going to feel like crap for a while.
Get this: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=110&cat=0&page=1
You may need HCG but any way you slice it, you're going to feel like crap for a while.
littleb
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joyzeeboy said:
I use otc supps during pct, but first and foremost stop use, I actually do not agree with bro above,{no disrespect intended] who said ween off for the simple fact that even 15mg a day or 10 puts extra stress on a liver that is probably stressed to its limits.. the liver is a very strong organ, can stand a lot but be safe bro........
I wont lie you will feel like shit, but as said above hcg will help, not liver toxic, until you have blood work i would stay away from clomid and nolva try hcg and go from there..
YES you will crash and it sucks, but you admitted what u did was not so good, so i will not flame bro, but accept the crash and have blood work done, and stop with dbol right away... to crash is one thing lose some gains that sucks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but your overall health is always more important then your apperence............too many bros forget that from time to time..
I hope your tests are good but be safe and stop now accept losing a little to protect your body.....
littleb
Papa Lion
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get some hcg, then run a clomid/nolva pct and an extended one at that!! as you've been on for quite some time, you're no dobt shut down hard!! so get off the juice and run a good pct and don't f' with over the counter supps, you need to run a real pct and a good one!!
~Papa Lion~
~Papa Lion~
littleb
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Papa Lion said:
bro with all do respect, clomid and nolva can also effect liver, not bad i know this, but i have read the studies.. thats why i said hcg and blood work first... dont touch anything between now and when you get bloodwork done that can effect liver negitively.... 7+ months on dbol be safe first..
DonCorleone562
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Stop now!!! Just think of it like this,
It's like drinking alcohol everyday. Maybe not at as harsh, or maybe harsher who knows. But your liver has to be somewhat fucked bro, maybe not a lot. I hope the best to you, and get that bloodwork done!
It's like drinking alcohol everyday. Maybe not at as harsh, or maybe harsher who knows. But your liver has to be somewhat fucked bro, maybe not a lot. I hope the best to you, and get that bloodwork done!
airsmith2k
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your liver values are probably high but when u stop they will go back to normal
Stryker1992
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airsmith2k said:
Bro, I have been on for long cycles a-bombs once and I do not think this is a "hair on fire isuues" You liver is mot likely not going to explode or any shit like that. Your dose is very mild despite the length of use.
You may need hcg and Nelon's supplmemnts seems to be a good idea, especially post cycle for cleansing the liver.
Myo or unleashed will help elevate test levels. you could try derma as well.
Stryker1992
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joyzeeboy said:
haha, stay off clomid wussy!
LOL!!!
littleb
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Stryker1992 said:
been off for a week so i know this is old post now but----------- no his liver is not going to explode, but 7 months on dbol,, be responsible here,, this is another persons health,,, shit bro,,,,,,,,,,,,, im pissed off now first cause this knuckle head wanted to do dbol for 28 weeks straight, then other folks coming on telling him its ok he is fine..... well thats all good he may be -- his liver values just be a tad high for a while, then im wrong but im glad to be wrong if thats the case........ but he has a problem which should be plain to see given the fact he dont want to lose any gains so he is staying on a very harsh alpha alkylated 17 roid...............
this board is not what it used to be, bros helping bros,, i was on under a different handle b4, and guys gave sound advise that was helpful, now its guys that want to be hardcore giving hardcore advice that should only be followed if your in competitive bb........
Listen this is not meant to offend anyone or anybodys reply, just think b4 u post-- this guy has been on because he has a problem,, if the problem persits he will die..... sounds harsh but say folks keep telling him its all good and another 3-4-5 months on dbol shitttttttttttt
im done ranting just too much bad advice from some [not all] but christ almighty
Well i didnt want to stir up crap in here. My girlfriend is a registered nurse at the hospital here in NY so the test is being taken care of. I know it doesnt mean anything externally but she deals with liver stressed people every day and she sees no VISIBLE signs of problems. Pressing on liver, eye color, etc etc. Now, the test is being done monday. Again please i dont want any crap between you guys, you are all on here much more than me.
Right now, all i would love is a LEGAL list of vitamins you guys might recommend. AND HOW LONG DOES THE LOSS OF DRIVE TO LIFT LAST???? lolol. i took two weeks off while waiting for the next shipment and i was needless to say a wreck. And how long should i wait to do the next round correctly? month? 2? here is what i have to work with
noexplode
nitrix
60x0
l-arginine 5000mg
MAJOR milk thistle for cleansing
and this is not discounting the liver as you said health is most important. i am new to this and thanks again
Right now, all i would love is a LEGAL list of vitamins you guys might recommend. AND HOW LONG DOES THE LOSS OF DRIVE TO LIFT LAST???? lolol. i took two weeks off while waiting for the next shipment and i was needless to say a wreck. And how long should i wait to do the next round correctly? month? 2? here is what i have to work with
noexplode
nitrix
60x0
l-arginine 5000mg
MAJOR milk thistle for cleansing
and this is not discounting the liver as you said health is most important. i am new to this and thanks again
littleb
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Bro I would wait and see how blood work comes back, then depending on results I would still take at least a few months off...
It is hard at first to go to gym and get that motivation to lift hard and heavy while you are "clean" so to speak, trust me i am starting a big cycle in another week os so, but I have been off EVERYTHING for a tad over a year right now.. major reason being new job, bah hours, no time to eat or lift the way i should be.. the first few months off I was a wreak to a point, lost some gains, lifts went down a little ect.. trust me when i tell you everyone single bro on this board feels the same way coming off a cycle, but unless you are on hrt you have to do it..
I dont get personal on here with my stats ect. but i went from 200lbs with 12% bf to right now I am about 197lbs and bf is prob in the 18%-20% range so to me i feel like a fat slob because i wanted to keep eating big to not lose muscle while off, so preserved some muscle and added gut fat...
all that said I just had bloodwork done and everything with exception of cholestorol being just a tad high is fine.. what I am trying to tell you bro is I know its hard, but there is such a thing as being addicted both physically and mentally to the sauce, take a break keep lifting even if you have to force your self to get in the gym, if the weight you can lift goes down fuck it who cares.. I lift for me, not the bro on the bench next to me...
And you did not start a fight on here, you came in with a real question, actually a serious one, I did get a little heated and i apoligize for that to the bros I disagee with, but i think you have a problem and you need to get it under control b4 it hurts you. stay on the board keep lifting and give you body a break and when you are ready next time do a nice test cycle for 10-14 weeks even mix in some eq if you want, just be safe about it..
littleb
It is hard at first to go to gym and get that motivation to lift hard and heavy while you are "clean" so to speak, trust me i am starting a big cycle in another week os so, but I have been off EVERYTHING for a tad over a year right now.. major reason being new job, bah hours, no time to eat or lift the way i should be.. the first few months off I was a wreak to a point, lost some gains, lifts went down a little ect.. trust me when i tell you everyone single bro on this board feels the same way coming off a cycle, but unless you are on hrt you have to do it..
I dont get personal on here with my stats ect. but i went from 200lbs with 12% bf to right now I am about 197lbs and bf is prob in the 18%-20% range so to me i feel like a fat slob because i wanted to keep eating big to not lose muscle while off, so preserved some muscle and added gut fat...
all that said I just had bloodwork done and everything with exception of cholestorol being just a tad high is fine.. what I am trying to tell you bro is I know its hard, but there is such a thing as being addicted both physically and mentally to the sauce, take a break keep lifting even if you have to force your self to get in the gym, if the weight you can lift goes down fuck it who cares.. I lift for me, not the bro on the bench next to me...
And you did not start a fight on here, you came in with a real question, actually a serious one, I did get a little heated and i apoligize for that to the bros I disagee with, but i think you have a problem and you need to get it under control b4 it hurts you. stay on the board keep lifting and give you body a break and when you are ready next time do a nice test cycle for 10-14 weeks even mix in some eq if you want, just be safe about it..
littleb
njmuscleguy
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littleb - you gotta space out your posts better... I'm all cock-eyed now! *grin*
Fellow Jersey dude, here's my 3 cents:
Get your system cleaned up - use the Milk Thistle - I actually always take Tylers Detox whenever I take any orals. r-ALA and Sesamin are good liver protectants - look into those as well. My liver values always recover nicely.
I always take creatine when I'm "off", plus some stimulant products to give me the boost I'm lacking from AAS. I happen to like NO-Xplode alot, so you're good to go.
Keep your diet in check, keep training hard, and keep getting good sleep - this way your body doesn't go into that "slump" that you're afraid of. Make sure you're taking your EFA's!
I don't know that I'd go with clomid or nolva for such a mild cycle, but you are definitely suppressed to an extent - I would try something like Dermacrine or MyogenX, etc. I've used Derma with a much heavier cycle and it's worked nicely.
You can throw in some ZMA and Tribex for libido boost. Make sure you're taking a good multi... I've been happy with Animal Packs so far.
Finally, I would wait a few months before jumping into another cycle, or at least until you get some bloodwork to make sure your liver, test, estrogen, etc are all in check.
Good luck bro!
Fellow Jersey dude, here's my 3 cents:
Get your system cleaned up - use the Milk Thistle - I actually always take Tylers Detox whenever I take any orals. r-ALA and Sesamin are good liver protectants - look into those as well. My liver values always recover nicely.
I always take creatine when I'm "off", plus some stimulant products to give me the boost I'm lacking from AAS. I happen to like NO-Xplode alot, so you're good to go.
Keep your diet in check, keep training hard, and keep getting good sleep - this way your body doesn't go into that "slump" that you're afraid of. Make sure you're taking your EFA's!
I don't know that I'd go with clomid or nolva for such a mild cycle, but you are definitely suppressed to an extent - I would try something like Dermacrine or MyogenX, etc. I've used Derma with a much heavier cycle and it's worked nicely.
You can throw in some ZMA and Tribex for libido boost. Make sure you're taking a good multi... I've been happy with Animal Packs so far.
Finally, I would wait a few months before jumping into another cycle, or at least until you get some bloodwork to make sure your liver, test, estrogen, etc are all in check.
Good luck bro!
Gentlemen, you are too f'ing nice!!! thanks for the pep talk.Its just hard mostly mentally, fearing the unknown its just nice to know i have a good support system funny i just got back from Paramus in jersey. njmusc, littleb and all those who gave me advice. ive been lifting . for 17 years juice free. except when EAS had andro6 in '98. creatine and no2 was my choice stuff later on. There any chance one or both could PM me im not sure how to do it. i have a couple questions. thanks again
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