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Please Help with First Cycle. (Sust/EQ)

Paulos

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Alright, Finally decided on what I'm going to do with much help from you guys for my first cycle. Cycle outline is like this...

Sustanon 250 250mg/Wk 10 Weeks
Equipose 400mg/Wk 10 Weeks
Armidex .25mg ED or EOD (Haven't decided)

Clomid 3 Weeks After Last Sust Shot - 300mg First day, 100mg Following 10 Days, 50mg last 10 days.


Now My Questions.

1. Armidex - Thinking at .25mg EOD...is this sufficient? Is it possible to start out at .25mg EOD then gauge how I'm doing, and if needed move it to .25mg ED, or just don't be a cheapass and buy run .25mg ED to be safe? Trying to make this cycle as Economical as possible but saftey and negation of sides is more important.

2. HCG - If I am running clomid post cycle the HCG is not needed correct? I am not sure because I am using a small amount of Sust, would the clomid alone be enough?

3. Injections -

250mg Sust Injected Monday
200mg EQ Injected Monday and Thursday

3a. Does this Injection Schedule look ok?
3b. Can I Mix the Sust and EQ together on the Monday Injection
or should I use Separate needles?
3c. What gauge needle should I be using? Is 25g x 1" good?



My apologies for being a pain in the ass and asking so many questions but I just want to make sure everything is done safely and correctly for my first cycle. You guys have been very helpful and I appreciate it.
 
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ok

i cant answer all your questions without doing some research

but heres some of them

mix your juice on the days your using more than one kind. its a good idea

i think i use a 23 gauge pin its been over a year so hard to remember

most on this board say clomid is good by itself
 
alright alright

HCG no, clomid is fine


sust and EQ are both oils so 25 g would work but I like the thicker 23 g.


I would bump the armidex up to .50mg ed to avoid any bloat sust will bring.

you can mix both eq and sust together...

But I would bump the eq to 400mgs a week, maybe you are low on funds but 200mgs is not that great.

and EAT a ton of protien to max gains...
 
i know you said you were taking equi at 400 and i would up the sus to 500 a week and just do 1cc with your eq mixed every time you do an injection
 
well there you have it, I need to read closer...but yea sust at 500 is alot better
 
I didn't want to go Overboard with the Sust since I'm only 19 and this is a first cycle. I'm not looking to gain a ton of LBM, just looking to lean out more. You guys think 500mg/wk would be better? Sust is pretty cheap so I may do that, but then would I have to double the armidex dose?

Oh and HI I am going to run EQ @ 400mg/wk.
 
Ok 500 it is, what about the Armidex though. Also since I'm trying to save cash should I try to find a source with liquidex instead? It's not as expensive, right?
 
goddamit

i already wrote all this but the page messed up

ok if you want to drop something down drop the eq to 200 a week
you will still be gettin 700mg gear total a week and thats plenty for a first cycle

but you are young and if your main goal is to drop 15lbs of fat then there are a lot of better alternatives than juice

keto diet
clen and or eca stack
cardio

dont due the gear unless you are as tall as you would ever want to be

your still young dude

i dropped 30 lbs in 3 monts on the keto diet
 
I think I'll just push it back a tad more until I can afford the EQ @ 400 and the Sust @ 500.

I'm as tall as I'm going to get, Haven't grown since I was like 16. I know how to keto, I've done it before but I'm getting so repulsed by fatty foods now that it's virtually impossible to take in over 1500 Cals with the correct macronutrients for a keto without throwing up. I'm planning on doing a 50/30/20 split with the cycle, but going to start with a CKD tomorrow until I order and my stuff arrives and hopefully drop the weight I want to before I start with the gear.
 
I'm on my first cycle 500sus a week and 400eq. I went from 168 to 195 so far. That is 27 pounds but I still want more. Make sure you continue to do abs even though your bulking b\c I didn't and its hard to get them back.
 
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