please help me...

[nantzung]

I am going on my 1st cycle

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE 400mg*10weeks
dbol 25mg*40days
nolva and clomid for PCT

my question is: for a new newbie like me, would you suggest I ADD DECA into
my first cycle (I have 200mg/ml*10ml deca)??? OR just run test.cyp.&Dbol and save the deca for my 2nd cycle??

 

[turbogreek]

1st cycle should be test...it's a great idea. i wouldn't stach for a first either. you wanna see how your body reacts to compound individually. if you have too manythings involved and you get some sides...then you won't know the cause and then won't know how to fight the sides.

 

[nutsnack]

I am going on my 1st cycle

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE 400mg*10weeks
dbol 25mg*40days
nolva and clomid for PCT

my question is: for a new newbie like me, would you suggest I ADD DECA into
my first cycle (I have 200mg/ml*10ml deca)??? OR just run test.cyp.&Dbol and save the deca for my 2nd cycle??

save the deca.. run test only keep notes of sides.. if you get gyno during a deca/ test cycle you will have no clue what its coming from.. running test alone will let you see how ure body reacts to this chemical in ure body.. just keep not of all ure sides.

 

[krishna]

Ya so drop the dbol too.

 

[nutsnack]

Ya so drop the dbol too.

IMO dbol is ok to kick start your cycle but you might want to invest in Adex at .5mg ED and lower the dbol to like 3-4 weeks.. running it for 5.5 weeks isn't necessary your first time IMHO

 

[turbogreek]

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[krisco]

Yeah like they said!!!
Kwowing exactly how your body reacts to each compond is essential to safe, effective and continued use of AAS and knowledge of particular side effects and their origin goes hand in hand with Gettin' huge! and keeping it

 

[dsh89]

I did a test only cycle a while back and it was great. IMO it is a good way to start or for maintenence.

 

[nantzung]

thanks a lot!!
I'll save the deca for my 2nd cycle...


and another question is TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE 400mg/week enough to work great on a newbie like me??
and some of u said that my dbol dosage(25mg/day) may be too high...what's the proper dosage would u suggest?

my friend told me to do the sustanon250 for 500mg/week...is it wise too do that instead of using TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE only??

i've NOLVADEX and clomid,so I'm able to fight the sides,right??


so many questions...still hope someone can me a good suggestion

 

[iamnikvanhelsing]

Test Cyp at 400mg/week is easily enough for a first cycle, you should see good gains with that. Also Sus250 works well at just 250mg/week. An advantage of Sus over Cyp is that you hold less water on Sus than any other Test and there is less chance of Gyno. This is due to the blend of testosterones Sus has that work so well together, but thats a whole other story! Also with test cyp being a long acting esther it holds more water than the others and the chance of gyno is higher. This being said some people swear by test cyp! See how this cycle goes, then next time try the Sus and compare the two.

 

[nantzung]

Test Cyp at 400mg/week is easily enough for a first cycle, you should see good gains with that. Also Sus250 works well at just 250mg/week. An advantage of Sus over Cyp is that you hold less water on Sus than any other Test and there is less chance of Gyno. This is due to the blend of testosterones Sus has that work so well together, but thats a whole other story! Also with test cyp being a long acting esther it holds more water than the others and the chance of gyno is higher. This being said some people swear by test cyp! See how this cycle goes, then next time try the Sus and compare the two.

thank you a lot!
and how about my dbol(25mg/40days)......should I take it with my test cyp?
will I retain much after the cycle?and what may be the % that I can retain?
Of course I will run PCT for 21 days

 

[zebco]

Drop the d-bol bro. Test only for your first cycle. Save it for later. How much you keep depends on training, diet, PCT.. You should be satisified for sure. Stay consistent through and after..

 

[slat1]

What are your stats?
Test only...
400mg's is a lot to start with. I would say 250mgs is enough for a first run. Then again if you are already 250lbs 400mgs may be appropriate. List your stats!

 

[nutsnack]

thank you a lot!
and how about my dbol(25mg/40days)......should I take it with my test cyp?
will I retain much after the cycle?and what may be the % that I can retain?
Of course I will run PCT for 21 days

there's no way of telling % kept, it depends on how much you gain and your diet.. dbol is fine at 25mg but the 40 day thing is too long, run it for 28 days just to jumpstart the cyp, IF you are running dbol you need adex or you will bloat, IMO if you dont have adex dont run dbol unless you want the bloat?!

 

[nantzung]

Drop the d-bol bro. Test only for your first cycle. Save it for later. How much you keep depends on training, diet, PCT.. You should be satisified for sure. Stay consistent through and after..

THANKS
and should I use NOLVADEX during the test cyp. only cycle?
if so,what's the dosage?

PLEASE answer me....

stats:
23 year old working out for 3 years
166CM
63KG

 

[krishna]

Take nolva during if you notice any sides, i.e., itchy nips. Otherwise take it about a week or so after your last shot (20 mg a day for at least 2 weeks) to help your hormones balance back out.

 

[wayneboard1]

at the risk of looking like a thread thief here, I wanted to get an answer of sorts along htese lines. I am looking at a first cycle of test e at 4-500 ml for 10 weeks. However I fear the bloat!!!! So would sust 250 for 10 weeks with adex at .5 each day and a nolva pct for 3 weeks be a good lmm gainer with reduced sides? Thanks.