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Please help me on first cycle

notno

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First I am gonna do a anavar only cycle(8wk) at 40mg a daY(280 a week)(as I get more experienced in the yrs to come I will throw in primo)

I will take liver detox while running the var.I have only one problem that I am unsure how to exactly cover just yet,suppresion. After I do the var,I want to get my natural test back in order(and keep it well) and was wondering more about it.
I have heard of taking nolvadex,clomid,and natural stuff like unleashed and postcycle(I cant find postcycle)

Clomid is what my source has,so Nolva is out.(remeber not worried bout gyno,just nat.test)

What should I take and for how long at what dosage with this particular cycle?

Heres a stupid question,but hard to find an answer to.-after my cycle+clomid and stuff, after I take the clomid,will I have to continue to take that stuff to keep my natural test where it originally was?
 
Var is a mild anabolic so it won't shut you down to much at all. I'd take Clomid post cycle anyways. Start 3 days after your last dose of Var. Take 300mg/Day for the first day of Clomid, then take 100mg/Day for the following 7 days, the next days take 50mg/Day and the final 7 days take 50mg/EOD (every other day) for a total of 22 days and your done.

M18
 
everyone is different. you never know how you react until you take the stuff. If you are only taking var @ 40mg ed i doubt you'll have to worry much about side effects. Nolva is most likely not needed, since var doesnt convert to estrogen.. and var at that dosage will not likely harbor any side effects..

and for the record, when taking clomid, once you are back to normal you dont need to continue taking it
 
I know var is safest of em all.Could I just use some herbal stuff and skip out on clomid all together?Please recommend some herbals and where I can get them.(for nat.test)
 
notno said:
I know var is safest of em all.Could I just use some herbal stuff and skip out on clomid all together?Please recommend some herbals and where I can get them.(for nat.test)

Go with Clomid! It's cheap and by far your best choice

M18
 
yeah,but I dont know about dosage though,what you mentioned seems like alot.could I just use 50mg a day for 2wks after cycle?
 
Thats the general dose for post cycle therapy. I am sure you could use a little less, but I personally like to go with what I know to work the best for me.

M18
 
notno said:
what sides does clomid have?I heard something about eye damage

Clomid effects people in diffrent ways. I personally only get a little acne when on and it goes away as soon as I dis-continue it. Some report mood swings (more emotional) acne, blurry vision, sore joints. All sides will stop once Clomid therapy is finished

M18
 
thats just the problem man.so many posts and info on the stuff,and alot of disagreement in them.Its becoming very hard to make a accurate decision these days.

Anyway,what it I did a post cycle and unleashed for recovering my test instead of using clomid(I dont like ordering pills because of customs,my var is paper)

Could I just do those two products since this is a relativly low cycle and skip clomid
 
With that cycle you propose, there is no need for Clomid at 300mg ED. The highest I would go, speaking for this cycle, would be 150mg or 100mg and then taper down from there.

MUSTANG_18 may need to start at 300mg, but he is probable running more than var only cycles. If you throw in 500mg/wk or more of test, then go with Mustang's recomended doses
 
JuicePimp said:
With that cycle you propose, there is no need for Clomid at 300mg ED. MUSTANG_18 may need to start at 300mg, but he is probable running more than var only cycles. If you throw in 500mg/wk or more of test, then go with Mustang's recomended doses

Clomid isn't run at 300mg every day.....Standard post cycle recovery is
Day 0ne 300mg
Day 2-8 100mg per day
Day 9-15 50mg per day

And at the cost of a var cycle i would run the above to solidify every pound of keepable muscle.


RADAR
 
IMO - I loved Nelson's post cycle and it worked for me. However, there are tons of people that swear by clomid - your choice.
 
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