Please critique this cycle :) test e and tren e

[bjc227]

A good friend of mine wanted me to come up with a cycle for him. He is 25 and has been training for 3 years. I'm guessing his body fat is %15. Mine is %8 so his has to be 15+. anyway, he said he wanted to do a cutter so I figured a low dose of test and tren would do the trick. And since this is his first cycle I figured using enanthate versions of test and tren would be better for him. Here's what I came up with:

mdrol 1 pill/ed wks 1-4 (the stuff is freekin strong and I don't want him blowin up)
test e 250mg/wk wks 1-10
tren e 200mg/wk wks 1-10
adex .5mg eod wks 1-12
nolva 40mg/ed wks 13-14
nolva 20mg/ed wks 15-16
oh yeah and hcg towards the end of his cycle

I'm predicting some test-only suggestions and possibly the elimination of adex due to the low test dose

Let me know what you guys think

 

[goal245]

This is his first cycle, tren is out.
It is never better to use long esters for a first cycle because if you start getting bad side effects you can't pull out within a few days like you could on short esters.

He should stick with test e only at 400/mgs week.

Since this is a cutting cycle im assuming he will be eating lower carbs and trust me you dont want to run superdrol on reduced carbs because it greatly increase glycogen retention and you friend will feel like shit on it and will be going hypoglycemic all the time.

may want to drop the adex down to .25mg EOD

 

[bjc227]

anyone else?

 

[joe d]

how old are you?

 

[Divinehybridx]

Deffinatly no tren

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Lose the tren, 100%...

Also.. why, for fucks sake.. would anyone start with a cutting cycle?

It makes no sense.. Tell him to suck it up, hold the fat loss and bulk up.. once he is big enough he will get cut

 

[bjc227]

how old are you?

I'm 26 but what does that have to do w anything? The cycle isn't for me...

 

[bjc227]

Ok tren is out of the equation I'm just gonna get him on test e 500mg/wk with adex hcg and nolva for pct

 

[andrew732]

Also instead of test E, go with prop at EOD at 125mg since he is a beginner, much drier gains.

 

[joe d]

I'm 26 but what does that have to do w anything? The cycle isn't for me...

because it is you asking the question. heres my thoughts for the stated goals on a first run.

1-10 400mg test ew
5-10 winny 50mg ed
5-end of pct liver suport
adex if needed
same day as last test inject start a 500-1000 iu eod for 10 days of hcg
day after last hcg start pct
nolva 40mg ed for 21 days then 20mg ed for 7 days
otc pct like sustain alpha for the same 30 days as the nolva

 

[Divinehybridx]

Also instead of test E, go with prop at EOD at 125mg since he is a beginner, much drier gains.

Yeah but if it's he's first cycle he'll have trouble pinning that much if he's not used to it.
But then again practice does make perfect

 

[bjc227]

what about var? the stuff i can get is "4 times as potent" and its made by ax** labs. not sure on how to dose it since its 4x as strong as regular var :/ id like to have him run the var with test

 

[goal245]

what about var? the stuff i can get is "4 times as potent" and its made by ax** labs. not sure on how to dose it since its 4x as strong as regular var :/ id like to have him run the var with test

the reason they say its 4x as potent is because prescription anavar comes at 2.5mg per pill while theirs comes at 10mg per pill. you would still dose the same way just by taking less pills

 

[burnthiscorpse]

friends do let friends perscribe tren E for noobs.

as perviously stated....once one decides to try tren....tren E is never a good bet for a first try.