Please Critique my Cycle...

[joe2gaan]

I have separated them into injectables and orals. I am using primobolan to boost my immune system during the cycle because i tend to get sick.

Here goes:

Joe’s Weight Gain Cycle (Injectables)
1. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
2. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
3. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
4. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
5. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
6. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
7. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
8. 1125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 1237.5mg Andropen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
9. 875mg Sustanon 250/wk, 962mg Androphen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
10. 625mg Sustanon 250/wk, 687mg Androphen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
11. 375mg Sustanon 250/wk, 412mg Androphen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
12. 125mg Sustanon 250/wk, 137mg Androphen 275/wk, 100mg Primobolan/wk
Joe’s Weight Gain Cycle (Orals)
1. 100mg Androl/ed, 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
2. 150mg Androl/ed, 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
3. 200mg Androl/ed, 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
4. 200mg Androl/ed, 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
5. 150mg Androl/ed, 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
6. 100mg Androl/ed, 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
7. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
8. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
9. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
10. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
11. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
12. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
13. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
14. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed
15. 20mg Aromasin/ed, 20mg nolvadex/ed, 50mg Mesterolone/ed

 

[boops]

bro
no one is going to give you advice unless you simplify that thing you posted...i got a headache just trying to read it....i also thought i needed a PH d in something just to decipher it lmao....

 

[cswole]

First thing, you are taking sust and adropen, they are basically the same thing, 4 test esters blended. So for a while you are going to be taking over 2 grams of test per week. A bit too heavy imo. Then up to 200 mg/drol per day? My advice, drop the drol to 100mg/day, 150 MAX, and drop it to 4 weeks. I am in my last week of a sust/drol cycle I went 6 weeks on the drol. After week 4 the weight gain from the drol stopped, the strength kept coming though. 4 weeks of drol is plenty, and I was running 100mg/d.

With this heavy of a cycle, lets see some stats and cycle history bro. I'd think that Cutting the test down to 750/w would be plenty, and drol to 100, and add in some deca or tren.

 

[boops]

First thing, you are taking sust and adropen, they are basically the same thing, 4 test esters blended. So for a while you are going to be taking over 2 grams of test per week. A bit too heavy imo. Then up to 200 mg/drol per day? My advice, drop the drol to 100mg/day, 150 MAX, and drop it to 4 weeks. I am in my last week of a sust/drol cycle I went 6 weeks on the drol. After week 4 the weight gain from the drol stopped, the strength kept coming though. 4 weeks of drol is plenty, and I was running 100mg/d.

With this heavy of a cycle, lets see some stats and cycle history bro. I'd think that Cutting the test down to 750/w would be plenty, and drol to 100, and add in some deca or tren.

your better then me, i looked at it once and my eyes went crossed...lol

 

[Throw2Far]

WTF was that bro... Whats ur cycles experience and stats? Fuck the Anadrol bro... and methenolone... Scrap that do this:

1.500mg Sustanon 1-12
2.40mg Dbol ED 1-4
3.500mg/week Equipose or 75mg ED Tren or 400mg/week Deca for weeks 1-12

 

[joe2gaan]

I am trying to take as many differnent test esters as i can. I have found that my body responds best to test. I am very sensitive to compounds that make you impotent that is why i want to stay clear of deca and tren.

 

[joe2gaan]

My Stats are:
My beginning stats:
5' 10", 230lbs, 29% bf, bench press 210lbs

Intermediate stats:
5' 10", 240lbs, 25% bf, bench press 325lbs

End of Cycle Stats:
5' 10", 251lbs, 24%bf, bench press 365lbs

After 4 Dnp cycles stats:
5'10", 217lbs, 13% bf, bench press 365lbs

 

[boops]

bro you need to back the truck up a bit and start back at square one here...what cycles have you done before...what are your real time stats RIGHT NOW....what kind of diet you planning on...what are some goals you have here....so many questions that if you would answer we would be more then willing to help you out, but again please dont try to post a cycle like that mess again......

 

[joe2gaan]

Here is simplified version of my cycle

1125mg Sustanon 250 - wk 1-12
1237.5mg Andropen 275 - wk 1-12
100mg Primobolan - wk 1-12
100-200mg Androl - wk 1-6
50mg Proviron - ed wk 1-15
20mg Aromasin - ed wk 1-15
20mg Nolvadex - ed wk 1-15

 

[boops]

Here is simplified version of my cycle

1125mg Sustanon 250 - wk 1-12
1237.5mg Andropen 275 - wk 1-12
100mg Primobolan - wk 1-12
100-200mg Androl - wk 1-6
50mg Proviron - wk 1-15
20mg Aromasin - wk 1-15
20mg Nolvadex - wk 1-15

christ bro do you realize thats over 2 grams of just test not to mention all the other stuff...please tell me you compete on a national level and dont just do this recreationally, the answer to either dont matter id still like to see some pics......

 

[joe2gaan]

my first cycle was 750mg deca/wk, 100-200mg androl/ed, 1000 test cyp/wk for 12 weeks (made me impotent)
second cycle was 750mg deca/wk, 100-200mg androl/ed, 1200 test cyp/wk for 12 weeks (made me impotent)
Diet
2.5 times my bw protein
less that 20% Fat
Rest carbs
3500 - 4500 cal
Very clean diet

 

[boops]

my first cycle was 750mg deca/wk, 100-200mg androl/ed, 1000 test cyp/wk for 12 weeks (made me impotent)
second cycle was 750mg deca/wk, 100-200mg androl/ed, 1200 test cyp/wk for 12 weeks (made me impotent)
Diet
2.5 times my bw protein
less that 20% Fat
Rest carbs
3500 - 4500 cal
Very clean diet

ok so your gonna jump from 1200mgs of test to over 2 grams based on what the fact that you became impotent on those cycles, i hate to clue you in but it is possible to become impotent even on high dose test cycles without deca.....just food for thought, id still like to see pics

 

[joe2gaan]

Right now i am 5'10", 214lbs, 12% bf, bench press 365lbs

 

[joe2gaan]

I will have to get some pics online.. but until then if i want to go all test what doses doe you recommend? 750mg Sustanon, 750mg Andropen???

 

[boops]

Right now i am 5'10", 214lbs, 12% bf, bench press 365lbs

you are no where near any potential to take 2 grams of test bud, not to mention combined with all the other stuff....say you do the cycle you listed where you gonna go next 4 grams of test, do yourself a favor and bring the space ship back to planet earth and back those doses down before you do yourself permanent harm like kill the lipid profile and high blood pressure just to name a few....

 

[joe2gaan]

What should some one with my stats be doing??

 

[boops]

What should some one with my stats be doing??

its not all based on your stats bro, its based on what youve tried before and what did or didnt work for you....we dont know exactly whats going to happen to you in terms of gains vs sides...we can only speculate by what has happened to us and in terms of telling you what to expect its only our opnion....why did you start with such high doses to begin with??? im just concerned for your health and thats why im so adamant about rethinking what it is your doing....read up bro and then decide what to use....

 

[cswole]

Only diff between sust and andropen is andro has acetate and cyp esters. Honestly get one or the other. 7 different esters of test is probably going to cause more trouble than good with side effects, maybe I'm wrong. I've tried sust, and personally I'd stick to one ester, get cyp or ent for a long ester, or prop or susp for short ester. With andro/sust you will want to shoot it ed/eod at worst to keep blood levels more stable than you would have with 2x week injections. Believe me, my jawline is hating me for going 2x a week on the sust.

Also, why in the world would you do 1 gram of test on your fist cycle? That is WAY too much for a first cycle. 500mg/test a week should be the max for a first cycle. Anadrol is also not for beginners. Most people don't see much better effects above 100 mg/ed of drol, and see the sides increase greatly when going above that mark.

Ok, so you don't want deca or tren. Try this.

750 mg/w test cyp or ent weeks 1-12
30-50 mg dbol/ed weeks 1-4
If you want another compound, throw in something mild like 400-600 mg/w EQ weeks 1-12, or at weeks 6-12 do some tbol or var, try 40 mg/d and work up to 80 if need be.

 

[Wulfgar]

that is alot of gear bro
I weigh just over 235 in contest shape and I dont even go over 700mg test a week or 150 MG Anadrol(and even that is only for about a week)

Id recommend you take a cool 8 weeks off everything, do a proper clean out. you may lose a little muscle but then start up again a little lighter on the gear and really nail your nutrition

 

[TRAPezoid]

Anadrol is also not for beginners. Most people don't see much better effects above 100 mg/ed of drol, and see the sides increase greatly when going above that mark.

Ok, so you don't want deca or tren. Try this.

750 mg/w test cyp or ent weeks 1-12
30-50 mg dbol/ed weeks 1-4
If you want another compound, throw in something mild like 400-600 mg/w EQ weeks 1-12, or at weeks 6-12 do some tbol or var, try 40 mg/d and work up to 80 if need be.

Holy shit! 200 mgs of Drol a day, the idea just plain terrifies me.

Bro it sounds like you are planning your sides instead of a cycle....

I think a cycle like Cswole's sounds good. You could sub Tbol for Dbol, it might be good for you since you have a high BF%.