Please critique my 2nd cycle

[littleRock]

First cycle was:
week 1-5 dbol 50mg ed

week 1 deca 900mg
week 2-9 deca 300mg

week 6-10 winny 50mg ed
week 10-12 winny 25mg ed

This worked out good, good strength but not much size. I've been playing with my diet for the last 2 months and have been doing well so i want to start a second cycle.

This will basically be the same with the additon of some test....

Second cycle:
week 1-4 dbol 50mg ed

week 1 deca 900mg
week 2-10 deca 300mg

week 1-8 CYP 560mg

week 7-9 winny 50mg ed
week 10-11 winny 25mg ed

I plan to take arimidex at 0.25mg ed thoughout the cycle.

I expect to start clomid at week 10 (to soon?).
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2-11 100mg
Day 12-22 50mg

Stats: 27, 185, ~11%bf

help, help, help !

 

[BigAndy69]

Euh? Okay...

Not much size? There is something definetely wrong here. You used a shitload of gear, 50mg of Dbol ED, 900-300mg of Deca and then winny and you didn't gain "too much size"?

Either you are the worst BBer I've ever heard of or your gear sucks ass.

 

[littleRock]

I wasn't eating....

I gained lots of strieght, still have most of it (amost 3 months later) and lost of few % of BF....

 

[MassMadeEasy]

Hey bro, run the winny through week 12 start clomid week 13, you don't want to start the clomid until all the compounds have cleared. For Deca that means around 14-17 days, winny only 2-3 days. If you have enough gear look at running the test out to week 10 as well. Start the liquidex 2-3 days prior to start of cycle and through the end of clomid post therapy. Also depending on which brand of Dbol you have 50 mgs could be overkill, could drop down to 30 if you want, again depending on over or under dosing. Work on eating those calories 3000 to 4000 a day. Good luck to ya.

-Mass-

 

[littleRock]

I wanted to take more clomid that i may need. Sex drive was way down after the last cycle and i want to try and avoid that.

Looking back at it, would it make more sense to run the test longer than the deca as the deca is such a long ester (sp).

Maybe:
Deca 2-9 300mg
CPY 1-10 560mg

????????????

 

[MassMadeEasy]

Most of the time you stop the test the same time as the deca because it is really only a few days difference between the two, in terms of halflives. Instead of starting the clomid early, add in some HCG weeks 3-4 500IU ED, weeks 7-8 500IU ED and then at week 12 500IU ED start clomid week 13. The HCG will stimulate your balls to produce natural test, this will keep your sex drive up as well as "every thing else". You must also remember that this cycle you will be on test and that also will increase sex drive.

-Mass-

 

[Maxx Out]

Most of the time you stop the test the same time as the deca because it is really only a few days difference between the two, in terms of halflives. Instead of starting the clomid early, add in some HCG weeks 3-4 500IU ED, weeks 7-8 500IU ED and then at week 12 500IU ED start clomid week 13. The HCG will stimulate your balls to produce natural test, this will keep your sex drive up as well as "every thing else". You must also remember that this cycle you will be on test and that also will increase sex drive.

-Mass-

Sorry bro, for deca to clear he will need a good 3 weeks maybe even 4. Test eth/cyp both have a clearance time of around 10-14 days. M.M.E., not a flame but make sure u know what u r talking about before u give out any advice!

Little rock, what u wanna do is run the test one week after the deca then 3-3.5 weeks after your last deca shot you can start the clomid. That's where u went wrong last time.

If your last shot of deca is taken on week 10 then wait till week 13 to start clomid, I personally wait till week 14-15 but I still am taking a short acting aas till I start the clomid.

Try this:

wk 1-6 30mg/day d-bol
wk 1-8 400mg/wk deca
wk 1-9 500mg/wk test
wk 7-11 50mg/day winny
wk 12 100mg/d clom
wk 13-14 50mg/d clom
wk 1-14 .25-.5mg/d arimidex

 

[littleRock]

Looking though the searches, not sure if i can get any HCG (not even sure what it is, must be like clomid)...

thanks everyone!

 

[Bicho]

Second cycle:
week 1-8 CYP 560mg

Where do you got that dosage from?

 

[littleRock]

Oh, one more question...

My last cycle was deca only, 300mg = 1cc. With this i'm going to need 1cc deca and 2cc test. Should i try and take all 3cc's at once or (my original plan) deca on Sunday, Test on Thursday.

Thoughts??????