plans for a d-bol only cycle

[ant256]

I am 5'11" 175 lbs, dont know b/f% but im pretty lean.
In the summer I am considering a mild/medium D-bol only cycle for around 6 weeks.
This would be my first cycle, what does everyone think the best dosage is?
how should the clomid be taken afterward? Is generic clomid just as good? And how about novalex (sp.?)

Thanks,
Anthony

 

[RdStrcklnd]

Everyone is going to tell you not to do it, but you could see some good results if you do it right IMO.


1-6 50 mg dbol; 10 mg 5x day
1-6 2.5mg femera eod
6-9 2.5mg femera ed or 50mg clomid ed

Still, you could expect better results from something like:

1-8 500mg test eth; 250mg 2x week
10-12 clomid 50mg ed

 

[ant256]

only dbol

ive seen post where people said not to do dbol only cycles but i have also seen post of people whos said they got good gains on only d-bol

 

[ant256]

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i thought that test gains are easily lost?

 

[Hoss]

If you do a good gains keeper, you don't have to lose any more from Dbol, than anything else...except water loss.

 

[supertech69]

What you keep will be totally up to the way you eat & train. You should get your calories way up & eat clean. Don't overtrain & you will keep "some" of the gains. I did a D-bol only for my first cycle & kept about 7-10lbs. It's not a good idea. No you do not lose most of your gains w/test just so long as you do the same. With both you should do the Clomid therapy.

300mg day1
100mg days 2 - 11
50mg days 12 - 21

 

[Parabellum]

My first cycle was a d-ball only cycle. I achieved fantastic results, but by two months later most of what I had acheived was gone.

Consider adding test. It's not hard to find. You would only need 16 amps (sust/omna) if you hit 500 mg a week for 8 weeks.

 

[Bam Bam]

I wouldn't use d-bol for a first cycle period. Do something like this.

Test 250 1-8
eq 400 1-10
Clomid ran like supertech said. This is a good beginner cycle, you will be pleased with the results. Save d-bol for about the 3rd cycle. BamBam

 

[MadCow1]

Most new guys simply don't have the training or knowledge of their body to run successful dbol only cycles - actually I'd venture a lot of more experienced guys don't either.

I've run multiple dbol only cycles and retained the majority of my gains - there will be some water loss (generally a few lbs. in the first few days) and the normal loss from going natural again. That's it, as the rest is attributable to user error.

That being said - if you absolutely intend to do it:

I'd start at 20mg daily. Give it at least 7 days. If you aren't seeing progress go to 25 and then 30 if absolutely necessary. I'd be suspect if you aren't gaining on 25mg as there just aren't too many guys with genetics that suck that bad so it would be fake or your training/diet is screwing it up. FYI if you aren't deadlifting (not SLDL) and squating you are missing the boat.

Anyway - run your dose but when running dbol alone I would taper it down before starting clomid. Don't go cold turkey. Some will argue with this and may even sound logical but everyone that I know who's retained gains from dbol-only used a taper and most of the guys who lost it all didn't. Dbol is also the drug for which the taper was invented although it has been grossly misapplied to other compounds.

Something like this. 20,20,20,15,15,15,10,10,10,5,5,5

I've even gone to 5mg EOD for a period of 6 days. Probably overkill with clomid but the point is to not go from 30 or 25 to zero. Bring it down to at least 15 but I'd go lower and play it safe as the crash can be pronounced when droping larger dosages.

 

[RussianBro]

I am 5'11" 175 lbs, dont know b/f% but im pretty lean.
In the summer I am considering a mild/medium D-bol only cycle for around 6 weeks.
This would be my first cycle, what does everyone think the best dosage is?
how should the clomid be taken afterward? Is generic clomid just as good? And how about novalex (sp.?)

Thanks,
Anthony

what a waste of money...

 

[Vageta]

Johnboy please enlighten us as to the scientific reasons why he will lose all of his gains.

If anyone loses all of their gains from a Dbol only cycle then that person shouldn't be using any steroids as they obvioulsy don't understand the basics of completing a successful cycle. Muscle is muscle regardless of which drug is used it to help build it. People lose gains from Dbol cycles because they either confuse water weight with muscle(typical newbie assumption) or they have a poorly planned post cycle HPTA recovery method. As Madcow has already said you should taper your Dbol doses down while adding clomid, if you don't you'll run into problems.

All of these people that lose gains on Dbol then claim how test is best are using long acting esthers as a crutch. Since these long acting esthers taper themselves down over a 2-3 week period they slowly bring HPTA back up on it's own which in itself promotes recovery even without clomid. If these people that lost gains on Dbol were to do the same unsuccessful post cycle method on a short acting test esther like prop or suspension then they'd have the same shitty results. AS with long half-lives are more forgiving than short half-life drugs, however that doesn't make them superior. It makes them more suited to the uneducated that need all the help they can get to keep muscle. Don't assume because you lost your gains on a specific cycle that everyone else will.

 

[MadCow1]

All of these people that lose gains on Dbol then claim how test is best are using long acting esthers as a crutch. Since these long acting esthers taper themselves down over a 2-3 week period they slowly bring HPTA back up on it's own which in itself promotes recovery even without clomid.

Very eloquent

 

[voodoo]

Funny how everyone says you will loose all of your gains. As i recall "back in the day" people kept their gains on d-bol only. It would appear that humans have developed new genetic maps and are no longer affected by this AAS. Funny how that occured in less than one generation, hell even those who used to gain on d-bol only now can't.

What a load of crap. You can gain well on d-bol only, and keep your gains with a good taper/eating/training.