Planning my second cycle. No Aromatise?

[Voijn]

So guys im planning on doing a second cycle, after my winny only 100mg aday. Im looking to gains some mass and gain some strength

The worst thing that i could possibly imagen is developing gyno, that is why i have experimented with using Non aromatising roids like Anavar - Winstrol - Primobolan

When i start out i always get tingly nipples, wich after a few days go away. So i see my self as quite sensative on the nipples side So if possible i would like to run something that will not convert to estrogene

But if i choose to what should i run along to keep those estrogene sides away?

My idea of my second cycle would be:
Primobolan 400ew 10weeks
Anavar 40mg 6weeks
Nolva or Clomid for PCT

Any other ideas on what i could run for my second?

 

[nowaymang]

bro it's going to be very difficult gaining MASS on non aromatising gear.. why not run something like 500mg test-e per week and just use a strong dosage of arimidex to get rid of estrogen so you wont get any gyno and have nolvadex on hand aswell? u can run anavar with it aswell if u want..

 

[Nelson Montana]

bro it's going to be very difficult gaining MASS on non aromatising gear.. why not run something like 500mg test-e per week and just use a strong dosage of arimidex to get rid of estrogen so you wont get any gyno and have nolvadex on hand aswell? u can run anavar with it aswell if u want..

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I disagree. If you train hard and eat a lot of protein you can make nice gains with primo and winny, it just won;t be fast mass due to lack of water retention.

Avoid nolvadex at all costs. It hiders gains, kills sex drive, has a ton of side effects and makes you fell like shit. And there's better, safer stuff. What anyone uses that crap anymore is beyond me.

If you're hyper sensitive to estro, stick with non aromatizing compounds and keep some POST CYCLE and formastanozol to keep any excess estro at bay.

 

[nowaymang]

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I disagree. If you train hard and eat a lot of protein you can make nice gains with primo and winny, it just won;t be fast mass due to lack of water retention.

Avoid nolvadex at all costs. It hiders gains, kills sex drive, has a ton of side effects and makes you fell like shit. And there's better, safer stuff. What anyone uses that crap anymore is beyond me.

If you're hyper sensitive to estro, stick with non aromatizing compounds and keep some POST CYCLE and formastanozol to keep any excess estro at bay.

I agree that you CAN gain mass if you train hard and eat alot of protein on that but if you train hard and eat alot of protein with aromatising gear your results will be alot more pleasing that's all. You can try letro if your extra sensitive to estrogen sides, aromasin is also out there if u dont want to use arimidex for some reason. NOLVADEX does work i still can't get why you keep throwing this around, some people experience a kill of sex drive etc but then again some people get fucked up side effects taking any other prescription medication compared to others. This nolvadex blows attitude on this board is really starting to get to me, especially since its mainly TWO people in particular who keep throwing that line around. IF nolvadex blows FOR YOU then don't use it go stick with your natural supplements but don't make it sound like you represent the whole population because nolvadex hasn't worked for you. It has worked for me and a shit ton of people i know. I don't work for any pharma company or supplement company either. Which it seems u do work for one or the other. No offence mate just being honest and i'm sure i'm not the only member on the board whose getting sick of this repetitive "NOLVADEX BLOWS IN CAPITAL LETTERS AND DIFFERENT COLOURS IN EXTREME HIGH SIZE FONT" OR "CLOMID SUXORZZ". They do work and maybe not for some and maybe some people get more side effects than others but that comes with the territory of any prescription drug, i've taken xanax before numerous times to sleep at night and felt drowsy as fuck and unmotivated in the morning but my mate takes double the dosage and feels a million dollars in the morning when he wakes up.. This same concept applies to most prescription drugs hence why the pamphlet u normally get explains a list of POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS. Just my 2cents. And once again its not a personal attack on anyone just my opinion, i don't come on here to start arguments or cause trouble but just to gain knowledge and spread knowledge. Train hard bros.