planning 3rd cycle smart way

[pavlenko]

Currently planning my 3rd cycle, even though still on my 2nd. I like to think in advance since i am still learning, and have time to switch things up as I go along. Please experienced AAS users, help.

stats are 5'9 190lb 10-13% bf ..young.

Cycle-3.
test-e (600mg week 1-13)
EQ (600mg week 1-12)
tren-a (50mg/ed week 1-6)
proviron (50mg/ed week 1?-13?)?10?12?
AIFM (daily on and off cycle)

PCT 2 weeks after last Test E shot
Days 1-10 HCG 500 iu ED
clomid 100mg/ed for 1-2 weeks, 3rd week 50mg/ed
Nolvadex 40mg/ed for 1-2 weeks, 3rd week 20mg/ed
Do I start Clomid and Nolv after HCG or During?
How does the Cycle look? what about the proviron, when to startand how long?

 

[Selene]

What dose is your current cycle?

 

[UFC22]

stats are 5'9 190lb 10-13% bf ..young.

Cycle-3.
test-e (600mg week 1-13)
EQ (600mg week 1-12)
tren-a (50mg/ed week 1-6)
proviron (50mg/ed week 1?-13?)?10?12?
AIFM (daily on and off cycle)

Just wondering how "young" your talkin.

The cycle looks awsome but a little much for a 3rd cycle, for me at least. What are you currently running? You don't necessarily have to keep upping your doses to see results. The proviron should be ran throughout.

 

[pavlenko]

My current cycle is and I am on week 2 = ] i home brew all my gear and its the best shit ever. I believe my pumps are getting bigger already.

10 weeks deca 500week/fri
12 weeks test-e 550week 250fri250tues
8-14 weeks winny 75day/ed inj

i am 21

 

[52_21_30]

I'm not really sure what to recommend on this. 3rd cycle and 21 years old?? 190 lbs? You asked for experienced AAS users opinions, so here's mine: I think you started way too early. At your age you could have got to 200 lbs naturally very easily. Now look what happened, you're using almost 2 grams of gear a week trying to get to 200 lbs. I waited until I was 23 and in less than 2 years went from 225 to 290. Granted we have different genetics, goals, whatever, but I'm just saying. If you're 21 and planning your third cycle, did you start at 19? 20? The only thing that all of these cycles will do at your age and your experience level is make the weight that you can fall off that much faster when you're off, just because you didn't take the time to build up a decent natural base. And like ufc22 said, just because you used a particular dose once, doesn't mean you have to go up next time. I just weighed myself this morning, 278 lbs. And I still take only 50 mg of winny a day. I noticed you are taking 75 now. Do you see where I'm going here? It really does pay to wait just a little longer before hopping on the gear train.

I'm not ridiculing you, just giving an honest opinion. I see it all the time, guys in their late teens/early 20's doing cycles at 170 lbs. It's a joke.

As far as the actual cycle is concerned, its fine. I personally think creatine is better than EQ, but to each his own. And you should run the clomid and nolva from the start of PCT with your HCG.

 

[pavlenko]

ok well 1st of all i am only on the beginning of my 2nd and by the end of it I will be well over 200lb i can guarantee you this, I did my 1st cycle when i was 20, about to turn 21 and it was only 250mg test per week. So with this 2nd cycle Im gonna get much more gains and from my experience after the 1st cycle I didnt gain a pound of fat with pct and stayed with a 6 pack throughout the whole cycle which im planning on doing the same with this 2nd and 3rd. im not doing 2g per week only 1g. and 52.21 u say ur 278lb...well how tall are you? im 5'9 and if i was at that weight 278lb at any point of my age i would prolly be fat. im not going past 225 - 230 since i am not a tall guy and i stay lean all year round.

 

[cadey]

no offence but when it comes to gear nothing is gauranteed.

 

[pavlenko]

educated guessing, whatever trust it will be like i say it will be because its my body and I know it the best. I was just looking for some critique on the 3rd cycle and how it looks and if I should switch anything up. please more comments suggestions welcome! =]

 

[52_21_30]

I'm 5'10" My chest is 54", waist 36" quads 30", arms 22". Pretty massive I guess. I still have lots of things to improve, but yeah, I'm pretty large. Like I said bro, I wasnt ridiculing you. I wish you the best of luck. The cycle and PCT are fine, with the adjustment I mentioned (starting with clomid, nolva, and hcg all at once). If you plan to keep cycling just remember the key is to gain the most with the least gear. No need to go up in doses just because you previously used less. That's why I mentioned I still only use 50 mg ED of winny, sometimes just slightly more.