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Phenformin

CHAOS5000

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Hey guys... I'm looking for some good info on phenformin. I've got 500 25mg tabs. I'm going to start with just 50 ED, but I'm concerned about reports of lactic acidosis. Does anyone have some experience with this?
 
a friend of mine was doing some research on it - looks like the only people who had problems with it aready had badly impared liver function and remember taht they were taking high doses of phen for like 6months to a year strait. If you are healthy and stay under 100mg (150mg the extreem) ED i dont think there should be any problems at all. it is awsome on both a cutting cycle and a bulking cycle so i hear - gives u greeat pumps and u dont need to eat nearly as much.
 
I only took it 3 days since I got it at the end of a short cycle. I started with 3 pills (75 mg.) post workout. Next day I did 2 pills with breakfast and 5 post workout. Next lifting day I did 2 with breakfast, 6 after workout, and 2 with my next meal.

It makes you feel full for much longer. I had no ill effects. I'm going to use it next time I cut.
 
Lactic acidosis is extremely rare.
Unless you have a severely impaired renal function
or drink a couple of pints of staight vodka every-day
you shouldn't have any problems.

Phenformin btw is 8X stronger than metformin.

So, normal metformin dosage(min. therapeutic dosage)
is 1700mg/day. So, divide that by eight and you get
212.5mg/day approx.

So, 8-9 25mg phenformin tabs/day is a good dose.

Godspeed
 
Question for Fonz or anyone: What is lactic acidosis?

On the day after I took 250 mg of phenformin, I got up early, took some eca, and did 45 minutes of cardio on an empty stomach. On the drive home I started feeling queasy and had to pull over and puke up some water and dry-heave.

I didn't think it was related to the phenformin, probably just a reaction to taking eca on an empty stomach, one of those things. Thoughts?
 
fonz - a lot of people have gotten great results on metaphormin on half that dose 850mg - wonder if the 100mg of phen would equally do the trick?
 
Trevdog said:
Question for Fonz or anyone: What is lactic acidosis?

On the day after I took 250 mg of phenformin, I got up early, took some eca, and did 45 minutes of cardio on an empty stomach. On the drive home I started feeling queasy and had to pull over and puke up some water and dry-heave.

I didn't think it was related to the phenformin, probably just a reaction to taking eca on an empty stomach, one of those things. Thoughts?

Your blood PH always stays in the 7.3-7.35 range

Impaired removal of acidic compounds from the blood-stream(i.e.
bad renal function)= blood acidity levels shoot up and
you go into a coma.

Godspeed
 
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have you guys heard of a new drug called Glucovance? It's a combination of 500mg glucophage (metformin) and 5mg glyburide (stimulates the body to release more insulin). it's big now for diabetics but i am wondering about bodybuilding applications...
 
LMAO Cliff!!!!! I needed this question answered and had run into walls wherever i looked. Don't tell the other board i've been cheating on them! :D
 
there really hasnt been much info on phen since its not been used so long in the states - not too much on metaphormin either - not on any board i read
 
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