Pharmacom test cyp

[hardrock]

Been using this for a few weeks now and I am really sore for days after. I'm mixing it with DECA, but its the same DECA I used last go around, so pretty sure that's not it.

Anyway anyone else using this and getting more pain than usual. Reminds me of prop crept I don't feel like shit after.

Anyone?

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[bigbassturd]

May have got a bad vial bro, last time I ran that it was smooth

 

[hardrock]

On my 2nd vial. Same with both.

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[bigbassturd]

That's weird bro, you sure it's 100%

 

[hardrock]

Seems to be working. Lifts are up substantially. Been on for 4 weeks now.

 

[bigbassturd]

Idk what to tell you then man, I have used them twice and both times I had zero pip

 

[hardrock]

I think I'll try my shot tonight without the DECA. Last time I ran it I didn't think I had the pain.

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[hardrock]

I'm also jabbing the bottle twice with each shot. One for the deca one for the test, so I'm sure dulling the needle isn't helping. Guess I'll do one of each separately and see who the culprit is.

 

[bigbassturd]

Ouch bro fk that! Switch your needle out before you pin lol you're shoving a dull ass stick of metal in yourself

Check out youtube vids of close up shots of how much a pin dulls after it sticks a vial.

 

[hardrock]

I know. My pharmacy only sells me a few at a time so I've been using the same one to draw and shoot. Last nights injection has left me with virtually no pain today. I'll try the deca tonight. If all goes well I'll start swapping out pin before injection from here out.

I've done hundreds if not thousands of shots before, even with double dipping and never had this kind of PIP though.

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[RADAR]

I got some test Cyp that hurts as if you got hit in the delt with a base ball bat, I finally said screw this and put an 18G one inch in the top of the vial and set in a pan with about 1 inch of water and cooked it at 150 degrees for about 15-18 minutes don't let the pin touch the gear you want to evaporate some of that alcohol, after doing this mine has min pain and the difference is like night and day, you don't want to cook all of the alcohol out just enough to cut down on the Pain.

 

[ballslee]

ya dude do 2 different shots. i have had test like that, where i had to split the shots and wouldn't cause any PIP at all, but if you combined them BOOM it was off.
i think it can be the combination of solvents used that don't match up well or something, or it is the oils mixing together that don't go well.

bet you feel ten times better splitting them, and using a clean needle before injection. don't think it matters about going to 2 diff bottles while drawing tho, just before injection change it.

 

[hardrock]

I've always mixed compounds, even oils w water based without issues. Test injection from last night starting to get a lil sore. Might try baking it. See how things develop.

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[bigbassturd]

I would. Like radar said, not too long. Just wanna cut some of the BA out. Someone at the lab got lazy.

 

[hardrock]

Need to do something. Using 4 sites and only shooting twice a week and still a lil sore by full rotation.

My first was a 3cc in the left glute. Was sore for weeks. Trying to avoid that site for a while. Still have a lil lump there.

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[ceo]

If I had to guess I would say either too much BA or you got enanthate instead of cyp. How was it after you baked it bro?

 

[hardrock]

Never did. The next and all following vials have been painless.

 

[ceo]

what did you do differently? Switch needles out or inject test and deca separately, or both?

 

[hardrock]

Well I quit using the same pin for both drawing and shooting. That helped a lot. But I'm still thinking it was just that one or 2 vials. I had been shooting that way for years. Once I moved back to MN and all the pharmacies are dicks. Only one in my area will sell without a script, and they only give me 10 at a time. So I have to drive 15 miles every 5 weeks just to maintain my TRT schedule. At $.25 a pop though, I really can't complain too much. Gonna have to stock up before my next cycle though, or just go the online route. Most of them seem to be quite spendy tho.

 

[ceo]

bro go to shopmedvet.com and look at their closeout section for needles and syringes. You can get (for example) a box of 100 terumos 3cc 23gx1.5" for under $10, then get a box of 100 22gx1" needles for $5.00. $10 for shipping and you got 100 syringe/needle combos, with 100 drawing needles for the same price as you would have paid for 100 of just your syringe/needle combo, without the extra needles, and you didn't have to drive all over the county, and won't have to worry about pins for a year.

Just stick with Terumo, Nipro, BD or monoject. Stay away from the Exel, Ulticare, MVI and vet syringes. They're not as well made.

 

[hardrock]

Awesome. Thanks bro!

 

[hardrock]

bro go to shopmedvet.com and look at their closeout section for needles and syringes. You can get (for example) a box of 100 terumos 3cc 23gx1.5" for under $10, then get a box of 100 22gx1" needles for $5.00. $10 for shipping and you got 100 syringe/needle combos, with 100 drawing needles for the same price as you would have paid for 100 of just your syringe/needle combo, without the extra needles, and you didn't have to drive all over the county, and won't have to worry about pins for a year.

Just stick with Terumo, Nipro, BD or monoject. Stay away from the Exel, Ulticare, MVI and vet syringes. They're not as well made.

Just did this. Super easy. Great advice bro!

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[hurricane]

Well I quit using the same pin for both drawing and shooting. That helped a lot. But I'm still thinking it was just that one or 2 vials. I had been shooting that way for years. Once I moved back to MN and all the pharmacies are dicks. Only one in my area will sell without a script, and they only give me 10 at a time. So I have to drive 15 miles every 5 weeks just to maintain my TRT schedule. At $.25 a pop though, I really can't complain too much. Gonna have to stock up before my next cycle though, or just go the online route. Most of them seem to be quite spendy tho.

yea no need to use the same needle bro, they get dull.

 

[hurricane]

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