well, in that case, what's the shiz nit? I'm running proline right now and I'l tell ya, this is my 3rd cycle and I look better now on test e and eq than I ever did on sust or primo or dbol. I can definitely see myself running EQ again in the future. I've been considering deca. I know I know, shut down shut down. I hear a lot of people talk about shut down, but then I hear a lot of people still use deca(some even report no major shut down).