Ph illegal?

[notpuff]

in jeff summers new crap mag he said that there planing on baning all andros by 2003 is this true?

 

[ISN_Man]

They've been talking about trying to ban andros for the last few years, but it never seems to happen. Who knows.

 

[javaguru]

Marketing ploy, I bet he had a great deal on his products to "help" everyone stock up. If this were actually true then every supplement company would be up in arms.

 

[McLurch]

Jeff Summers is a piece of shit. Dont believe anything he says, he is just trying to get you to buy from him. Like his special creatines that is like 300 bucks for a month, or all his other bs stacks.

 

[chillin408]

From my understanding, a lobby group named The Prohormone Research organization exists. Their job is to inform government officials the truth about prohormones and other dietary supplements. I read about them at MuscleMonthly.com some time ago.

They are probably a reason for prohormes still being legal.

 

[youngyoung]

The Feds have made VPX stop their production of 1-test. They are testing the 1-test right now to see if it is OK to sell.

 

[BenchFreak]

Where did you hear this?

 

[youngyoung]

The company I work for deals with VPX

 

[notpuff]

Well patrick arnold was the guy who informed the feds i hear

Well atleast one good thing comes out of this atleast after the tests come out positive for contamination of controlled substances atleast one scammer bullshit company will be finished after they arrest the vpx guys

 

[BenchFreak]

do you think 1AD will get banned? i love the stuff and would hate to see it banned.

 

[notpuff]

BuMP

 

[youngyoung]

Well, I don't think Pat was the one who informed the feds. I would have heard about that. As far as VPX being scammers, the store I work for sells a crap load of their stuff. Mainly because the stuff works and people come back or tell their friends. I will say their stuff is overpriced.

I remember the first time I did Paradeca by VPX. I was doing 80 pound DB raises! Never did juice but holy crap I felt strong!

 

[wojo]

alright time to get the facts straight fellas 1)vpx's 1-test was contaminated like a lot of the earlier 1-test producs by 1 or all of the following test,dhtor boldone@) p.a was rumored to have reported vpx as he tested there 1-test product himself and found it contaminated ,he tested all of the 1-test products(he even warned par about this because he knew of the contaminations) and why shouldn't he do it? he created the ph industry himself and to have some morons f-up his business he built should piss him off.p.a is also a memeber of a group that act as liasions with the goverment about ph's so no one knows how close they r to getting banned more than p.a(if i am wrong about the above paragraph in anyway i apologize to p.a but i think most if not all of the info i have writtten is dead on)

 

[notpuff]

True but Par Des said he tested his 1-test batch for all schedule 3 substances and found none

Btw your argument defending him can be used for joe weider as well then helping steroids become illegal . He popularized the whole bodybuilding scene , started a nutritional spplement line but then people were using steroids and taking away the buisness he started and popularized so i gess hes not a ass for helping senater binden make AAS illegal

 

[wojo]

i do not know the specifics of the whole weider,biden aas thing but weirder is a tool and did that for good p.r .p.a did it to get everyone in line so the gov had no legit excuse to ban ph's.i am not saying what he did was right or wrong it was more of a rationalization.your argument is bit ofa stretch though.the whole rat thing can be read on www.anabolex.com for those interested

 

[notpuff]

Ok i read the thread Pats got some valid points ,maybe i was to harsh

 

[pa1ad]

Ok i read the thread Pats got some valid points ,maybe i was to harsh

Be good to PA and he will be good to you.