PGF2a in adipose tissue in love handles?

[td1111]

Perhaps PGCL might offer more even fat loss using is transdermally. The results might be slower, but it could be more uniform than SubQ.

 

[Dr James Daemon]

How bad is the muscle pain when used IM? Specifically, in the calves. Can you walk the next day at least, or are you limping for 2-5 days?

You'll stop limping after about 10-20 mins. That said, you'll feel a little 'displaced' for a couple of days. My drumming is a little dubios after the leg shots, but you can still lift up to your maximal (which will go down!!) Motor control will suffer temporarily, Which is why I suggest this may be better for bodybuilders instead of athletes.

 

[speedbacker]

So doc, would you recommend shooting this and IGF in the same muscle groups, around the same time? I'm still pretty damn skeptical, but i'm gonna give it a shot and see what happens,because there's only one way to find out. I knew of quite a few people that have used pgf2a in the past and were impressed with it, but also knew quite a few who were disappointed by it.

 

[Kachunga]

interesting stuff. I think I will stick to my gh/t4/clen for fat loss. Just the thought of any extra colon activity makes my rectum hurt.
Is that 500 mcgs a typo? At 200 I get some pretty wicked cramps.

 

[td1111]

Key question: How much does this differ from PGF2a? It seems to be the component or analog of the drug that is anabolic/thermogenic. What other advatages are there other than smaller dosages? Does having this analog isolated reduce other unwanted side effects???

Also, if the dosages are so much smaller, might there be a need to dilute it to get a more even spread throughout the muscle? Would this reduce pain, and if so, what would be the ideal solvent?

 

[Dr James Daemon]

So doc, would you recommend shooting this and IGF in the same muscle groups, around the same time? I'm still pretty damn skeptical, but i'm gonna give it a shot and see what happens,because there's only one way to find out. I knew of quite a few people that have used pgf2a in the past and were impressed with it, but also knew quite a few who were disappointed by it.

Thats a good question. And the logical answer seems to be "Yes".

In certain body parts, when you inject the PGCL, you get a little red bit where the swelling is. When you IGF-1 in exatcly the same position, the redness seems to stay a little longer. But if just put into the same muscle group, it doesnt make any visible difference, but I would logically do the two in the same group.

Same goes for MGF also.

If comparing experiences to PGF, just bear in mind the difference in strength when you come to use it!!!!

 

[Dr James Daemon]

interesting stuff. I think I will stick to my gh/t4/clen for fat loss. Just the thought of any extra colon activity makes my rectum hurt.
Is that 500 mcgs a typo? At 200 I get some pretty wicked cramps.

funny you should say that- I had this arrive earlier today:

"I wasn't fat but whatever body fat i did have is completly gone, my skin is paper thin and because ive been
> dosing my bies and tries only I can train indefinatly without
> fatigue. I started the correct dose and feel better. This is the
> most dramatic result I've ever seen in a few days. This is what six
> months of 5 ius a day of growth does."

Its interesting to read a sheet of these because peoples experience does differ- some guys dont get affected by the need for the bathroom so badly, as others getting shortness of breath. But all of the reports point to fat and water loss, and muscle growth of a kind that has shocked alot of seasoned AAS HGH users. If anyone wants a sheet of reports, let me know and I'll post them.

And no, the 500mcg isnt a typo! Cramps are terrible- its what I would call an intrusive dose. There are two really bad instances. First is when your leg and foot cramps when your driving fast. I invented a new ball and edge downshift manover the other day when my right foot cramped and I couldnt hit the brake!

The other is the cramp you get around the testicles when someone makes you laugh really hard- Jesus!!!!!When you tell people to stop making you laugh or youll get cramp in your bollocks- you should see their faces!!haha!

Ok-This is off topic- but give it a go if your tired of living

Two pictures-before and after original superclen!

After picture. left foot operates brake and accelerator, right foot clutch for doubles!

 

[mm107]

Dr. James : i have been trying to get my hands on pgf2a, i am trying to make a transdermal formula. Now i find it, but it is pricey, i do not want to do IM/SUBQ shots, only transdermal ( this is an personal expieriment, as i will do IM/SUBQ in the future)

my question:

do you know the molecular weight of 'PGCL' ? or how absorb able it is? i know pgf2a cannot be used with a pregnant woman around since it will cause miscarriages if it is transfered, which is supposedly very easily...

i hope it has a molecular weight less then 300....now i gotta find out.

but DR. James, have you ever administered in transdermally?

 

[mm107]

also, what does PGCL stand for lol? and is it a research chem?

 

[speedbacker]

If anyone wants a sheet of reports, let me know and I'll post them.

Doc- I would be interested in seeing it. If it isn't too much trouble and you could post it it would be appreciated.

Also, do you think you would need a caloric deficit to see results from this product? Would it have any use for somebody during a bulking cycle because of the site growth, or no way? Thanks.