td1111 said:
Dr James Daemon, do you know if PGCL causes Hypertrophy or Hyperplasia?
Good question!Off the top of my head, Id go for hypertrophy via "inflammatory mechanisms." Ultimatley the cell size could predispose them to dividing quicker, but this is speculation. Also, as most who are using it are using it with various growth factors, as opposed to AAS which renders the muscle functionally unusable (unable to complete full range of motion due to swelling) Id go for hypertrophy.
It would be foolish to overlook the anecodotal synergy people are having with growth factors.
Ok! I've been engaging in my favourite pasttime- experimenting with chemicals, and my conclusions are thus.
In order to prep my metabolism for this first experiment, I had to knock out the clen, the PGCL, and stop training, and increase my caloric intake... The purpose..? To see if the localised fat loss if permenant.
I put on around half a stone of pure junk, then started sub q injections of PGCL.
First thing I noticed was that the fat deposition was not uniform around the body. ie, in areas where the PGCL had been injected, therfe where islands of fat appearing. Yes, it does look strange!
This means on sub q shots it may be worth keping a note of everywhere youve shot, so you can even it out.
The fat loss in the areas does seem to be permenant, in that I canot get it to reappear locally. Its quite funny to see your shape change- over time, youd have to inject the areas you never had a problem with. I cant see PGCL administration ever stopping the body from depositing fat, so it would be interesting to see how it layers the new deposits around the body. We have yet to see....
Next observation, and from the brave ones of you who dared to try it, tolerance builds up quickly, within 12-24 hours the gastric side effects diminish, and over the course of approx. 4 days the dose needs to increase. A very pleasent result I noted was that a day off PGCl is enough to restore the potency of the drug. I would hate to be the one at this stage (without anything other than anecdotal observations) who comes up with a rigid 4 on, 1 off type of cycle, But when the dose needs to be increased exponentionally, take a day off- everyones different!
Sub Q shots are most certainly fit for the purpose of fat loss. Side effects are same as IM but not as pronounced. I noted bronchoconstriction on one shot only, which I would take to be not indicative of the norm for this route of administration.
So, rotate sites within same love handle for instance, and away we go.
Having experimented on PGCL with athletes, my conclusions at this time are:
This drug is best suited to bodybuilders, and posers!
The frequncecy of usage of a given limb in anyone desiring to maintain a high degree of performence in any sport precludes PGCL from being used in the protocol established. More simply, it will hurt like fucking hell, and stop the range of movement, and thus limit the intensity of training.
So for bodybuilders, not really the best off season compound, due to to effect on ability to train heavy.
Absolutley spot on however, for the cutting phase of training, leading up to a show. The training done here (much as though Ive always felt there is a case for strength training) is usually erring toward hi rep, low weight, high volume.
PGCL is amazing for its ability to produce incredible swelling, that on cluding the cycle remains as full, muscle, even when water levels are low- on the most meagre rations of training.
The lightest workout is enough to make an individual with bodyfat under 20% see results certainly beyond mosts wildest dreams.
In the precontest phase, when low carbs and losing water can render the user flat looking, this is manna from heaven. Used IM it will function simply to make the muscle swell up as if youd injected an oil based compound. However, at the same time, subcutaneous water is shedding, as your high liquid consumption and translucent urine will attest to.
Systemic fat loss occurs, which most users will find usefull in this phase.
In short- every drug, every exercise, every cockeyed diet plan, has its use toward a specific goal, at a specific time in the overall plan, and my experimenting with PGCL thus far have lead me to beleive that this is the BEST precontest, pre beach, pre photoshoot drug there is.
As part of my experimenting, I mentioned I stopped training and continued to eat ridiculously. However, I am still losing weight, and still growing. No-one beleives Im not training at usual intensity. For maintence, and whenever you want a holiday from training... this will keep you in the condition most aspire to whilst you sit on your arse and eat junk.
And for those of you listening in black and white- I love this stuff!
I did have a tshirt:
http://www.synergy-solutions.org/teeshirts.html
that said "Take drugs, eat shit, lift weights.
Simle enough...?"
Im getting some new ones done that read:
"Take drugs, eat shit, lift weights...
.......Occasionally........."
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