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peoples reaction from your first cycle

what test was it and was 250 sufficient for you. just wondering cuz I don't know if I want to do 250 or just say f**K it and go for 500 because I hear people say your first cycle is the best

It was Test E. I wanted to start off slow and I had no sides from it . Most ppl here will tell ya its too low of a dose but man I made some great gains on that! Good luck and have fun!
 
Good for you bro, im the same ppl accuse me of juicing but im natural, defiantly not as ripped as you but i still get accused, bunch of jealous fucks..
Do not juice bro, since you've came this far without roids you will be much better without them, if you juice you'll ruin your image forever, it doesnt matter how big and how cut you get, or if you can bench press 600lb raw with steroids people will lose respect no matter how far you go even if you bust your ass.. Its much harder to bench 350 natural then 500 with juice..


I dont really care about what other ppl think. I only held back from using until I get enough knowledge.

haters will always find excuses be it blaming their failure to your genetics or using steroids.
 
Why would gear make it easier to bench anything?
Its not the gear that lifts the weight...its your discipline busting your ass in the gym, and eating right.
Joe casual wont gain anything from gear...it doesnt lift the weight..
Learned a long time ago from few BB friends that this is fact...it always pissed them off that people gave the gear credit and dismissed the idea that their hard work was what got them to their level. Do gear users have an advantage....the answer is obvious to me...yes ..IF they put the effort in....In No Way am I intending that as a slam on natural....Ive gotten a ton of great advice here from REAL people, and I conclude that to a "certain extent" two guys with same build/size/effort will reach a point of mass that their diet and training etc. will allow...just the guy not on gear will take longer to get there... Another thing I have learned is that if youre not putting it all together with optimal effort..diet/training/recovery etc. you wont be much better after gear...Its changed my thoughts from "I wanna get on some gear to catch up" to "I wanna do this right, cause im not just wanting to look good for the summer, im looking at long term as a lifestyle" Just my noob thoughts...Please check me and give me the knowledge if Im way off base....NO Disrespect intended in any way.

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Wow what fucking nerve to say that to someone out of the blue. And what ignorance to assume.

You probably shrugged it off but I dont think I could have not went the fuck off at that kind of comment.
That's the line i took as well. I said what are you suggesting. I never abuse substances and all that malarky, and that i have just been eating right and training and they are being very presumptuous accusing me of such things.

What i wanted to say is "you better watch yourself, cos i've just dropped 20mgs of Beastdrol and i feel like i could decapitate a grown man with one hand at the moment, so watch your damn mouth" LOL
 
just wondering if friends, family, or co-workers noticed a difference or said any comments after your first cycle? If so what did you say to them? Did you lie about juicing. Also what was your first cycle?
I haven't done a cycle yet but was just wondering if people are going to know

if u do your 1st cycle correctly.. they will notice without a doubt.. unless u do some dipshit cycle that makes so sense

i was never shy about it,so i really didnt care about people in the streets/co workers/friends or what they thought .My family i lied to and told them i was working out like a beast and eating like a horse.:artist:
 
Why would gear make it easier to bench anything?
Its not the gear that lifts the weight...its your discipline busting your ass in the gym, and eating right.
Joe casual wont gain anything from gear...it doesnt lift the weight..
Learned a long time ago from few BB friends that this is fact...it always pissed them off that people gave the gear credit and dismissed the idea that their hard work was what got them to their level. Do gear users have an advantage....the answer is obvious to me...yes ..IF they put the effort in....In No Way am I intending that as a slam on natural....Ive gotten a ton of great advice here from REAL people, and I conclude that to a "certain extent" two guys with same build/size/effort will reach a point of mass that their diet and training etc. will allow...just the guy not on gear will take longer to get there... Another thing I have learned is that if youre not putting it all together with optimal effort..diet/training/recovery etc. you wont be much better after gear...Its changed my thoughts from "I wanna get on some gear to catch up" to "I wanna do this right, cause im not just wanting to look good for the summer, im looking at long term as a lifestyle" Just my noob thoughts...Please check me and give me the knowledge if Im way off base....NO Disrespect intended in any way.

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Im not here here to argue bro, because you have a valid point, but honestly do you think steroids will not give you strength gains without proper diet, i have proof that it does..
I had a friend who was stuck at 275x4 for a few month on bench, after he got on 50mg dbol his bench skyrocketed to 325x5 in only 2 month, his diet?? breakfast creal, lunch sandwich, dinner anything in the house or fast food, Thats it, probably 1500cal a day, His discipline was ok in training, he wasnt showing up much in the gym except for his bench press.
Thats not his hard work thats the steroids hard work because it allowed him to break his platue rapidly, and thats only with 50mg dbol, i would gurantee a 405x1 if he were to stack it with more roids..

But i do get your point about long term goals, he was looking for a shortcut.. i just wanted to say you dont have to be disciplined to get strong with roids, more juice more results..
 
A few of my buddies nagged me about it when they noticed a sudden increase in size... but I never told them.. my mom was like dang you sure have put on some lbs... only a couple close buddies knew I was on juice and it will stay that way when I run my 2nd cycle. I ran 250mg Test E for 10 weeks and had great results, should've had a better PCT and I would've kept more than I did. Can't wait for my 2nd cycle this spring. I don't care if people think they know, they don't and I'm not going to tell them.
 
Im not here here to argue bro, because you have a valid point, but honestly do you think steroids will not give you strength gains without proper diet, i have proof that it does..
I had a friend who was stuck at 275x4 for a few month on bench, after he got on 50mg dbol his bench skyrocketed to 325x5 in only 2 month, his diet?? breakfast creal, lunch sandwich, dinner anything in the house or fast food, Thats it, probably 1500cal a day, His discipline was ok in training, he wasnt showing up much in the gym except for his bench press.
Thats not his hard work thats the steroids hard work because it allowed him to break his platue rapidly, and thats only with 50mg dbol, i would gurantee a 405x1 if he were to stack it with more roids..

But i do get your point about long term goals, he was looking for a shortcut.. i just wanted to say you dont have to be disciplined to get strong with roids, more juice more results..

I disagree that he would have gotten 125lb bench increase on a cycle. The 50 lbs he gained from a first cycle is typical. I too gained a little more than 50 lbs on bench my first go. After that 1st cycle 50lbs isnt gonna happen again. Not to mention if his diet, pct, and training sucked he probably lost most if not all the gains made. Everyone has a great first cycle, but after that your diet, training, and recovery will all affect how well your cycle goes. steroids do give you an edge but you still have to work your ass off.

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I disagree that he would have gotten 125lb bench increase on a cycle. The 50 lbs he gained from a first cycle is typical. I too gained a little more than 50 lbs on bench my first go. After that 1st cycle 50lbs isnt gonna happen again. Not to mention if his diet, pct, and training sucked he probably lost most if not all the gains made. Everyone has a great first cycle, but after that your diet, training, and recovery will all affect how well your cycle goes. steroids do give you an edge but you still have to work your ass off.

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I gained 50lbs on flat bench in a month on my first cycle on beast. Shit was amazing. I worked my ass off in the gym though and ate ate ate
 
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