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I walk in the hotel this morning covered in dirt/grease/stank/Harley doo rag, baggy pants...the whole 9 yards. I said a polite 'good morning' to the girl at the counter as I walked past her to the elevator...she dismissed me with a look of disapproval like I was some sort of lower life form and didn't even return the kindness. Whatever.

Well, after I showered, changed clothes, and posted a few times on EF, I went down to sit in the jacuzzi for a little while. I had to walk past the desk on my way...and she yells out to me from behind "Hey...you clean up pretty nice Yankee boy." In a flirtatious kind of way. I just ingnored the shallow bitch and went about my business.

Hey now..sometimes I don't look my best, but I am always friendly and polite...just like when I was covered in dirt, and said good morning to her.

Why is it that a friendly gesture, no matter what you look like at the moment, isn't good enough for some people? My guess is that those people are missing a huge part of life.

Anyone agree?
 
Some people have no class. What hotel? If it really bothered you, you can always talk to the General Manager.
 
I agree that people are like that. When my parents are decked out in full leathers on their bike kids are afraid of them and such...which I find greatly amusing.

People always treat me weird when I show up covered in blood with a knife in my back pocket and ask where the duct tape is at the hardware store. People are really judgemental.
 
a) people judge, it's pretty natural

b) the whole "don't judge a boo kby its cover" is pretty short-sighted. A lot of thought and work goes into the design of a book cover, cause it is a marketing and branding tool. And publishers understand that people are going to be attracted or unattracted to the book by looking at its cover. Same goes for people.

c) Was it a high-end hotel?

d) Still, people should treat each other based on how they are treated, not what they look like. But hey, this is earth, not Babylon.
 
nycgirl said:
Some people have no class. What hotel? If it really bothered you, you can always talk to the General Manager.
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I wouldn't go to the GM on this one. It's not worth my time...It bothered me in the sense that at first I didn't fit her standards, but one hour later I DID?

I'm still the same person, with the same attitude...dirt or no dirt...an hour later....a year later....etc.

I just don't get it.
 
Raina said:
I agree that people are like that. When my parents are decked out in full leathers on their bike kids are afraid of them and such...which I find greatly amusing.

People always treat me weird when I show up covered in blood with a knife in my back pocket and ask where the duct tape is at the hardware store. People are really judgemental.
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Raina, I will never understand you. Thats probably why I find you interesting.
 
Raina said:
People always treat me weird when I show up covered in blood with a knife in my back pocket and ask where the duct tape is at the hardware store. People are really judgemental.
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What are the chances you would PM me a picture of that??!?! :p
 
jack_schitt said:
I wouldn't go to the GM on this one. It's not worth my time...It bothered me in the sense that at first I didn't fit her standards, but one hour later I DID?

I'm still the same person, with the same attitude...dirt or no dirt...an hour later....a year later....etc.

I just don't get it.
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You also gotta look at the fact that she is part of a business that, whether you like it or not, is subject to "image standards". Bars, hotels, clubs - they all do it. Not saying it is right, but there is a place for everything in this world.
 
I would have read this thread if you were wearing Paper Denim jeans and sat at the cool table for lunch. I'm goint to watch some MTV and learn how to be cooler now.
 
KillahBee said:
a) people judge, it's pretty natural

b) the whole "don't judge a boo kby its cover" is pretty short-sighted. A lot of thought and work goes into the design of a book cover, cause it is a marketing and branding tool. And publishers understand that people are going to be attracted or unattracted to the book by looking at its cover. Same goes for people.

c) Was it a high-end hotel?

d) Still, people should treat each other based on how they are treated, not what they look like. But hey, this is earth, not Babylon.
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I agree with all of that Killah...and yes, it's a pretty high end hotel, but 200 people from my company are staying here and the staff all knows we are busting ass round the clock. A simple smile would have been nice.
 
jack_schitt said:
I wouldn't go to the GM on this one. It's not worth my time...It bothered me in the sense that at first I didn't fit her standards, but one hour later I DID?
I'm still the same person, with the same attitude...dirt or no dirt...an hour later....a year later....etc.
I just don't get it.
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I understand. But depending on the hotel chain, part of their salary, the GMs, is based on the reviews of the customers. So not only do they have a monetary interest, they also have to uphold the standards of the hotel (which some companies) take very seriously.

Do you mind saying the brand of the hotel (location not needed)?
 
everyone is guilty of that at times. we can't help it and i bet not a day goes by that we don't judge someone by how they look in some way.
 
nycgirl said:
I understand. But depending on the hotel chain, part of their salary, the GMs, is based on the reviews of the customers. So not only do they have a monetary interest, they also have to uphold the standards of the hotel (which some companies) take very seriously.

Do you mind saying the brand of the hotel (location not needed)?
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Residence Inn....they are almost like apartments...full kitchen, fireplace, balcony, weight room, 'complimentary" breakfast, lunch and dinner...etc.
 
jack_schitt said:
Residence Inn....they are almost like apartments...full kitchen, fireplace, balcony, weight room, 'complimentary" breakfast, lunch and dinner...etc.
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I'm very familiar with that brand. I was hoping it would be someone else. I would complain to the General Manager. He/She (I hope) should be disappointed with that display of unprofessional behavior. And, I would fill out the customer survey in your room and give it to him/her.
 
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This is why I hate first impressions. Judgemental fucks and their shitty egos.
PAIN, HATE, RAGE..aaarrrggghhhhhh :Chef: :tuc:
 
you see a fat chick, you think "lazy" or "stupid"
you see particular race or color and you think something about them somwhere in the back of your mind.
you see a woman covered in tatoos and you think she's a tough girl.
you see a milf, hair done up, long nails, designer clothes, and you think "princess" or "bitch" and "i want to do her".
we all judge.
 
I get shit like that a lot because my head is shaved. I still have people ask if I'm a skinhead. Fucking hate it.
 
that sucks bor. I'd fuck her. After you nut all over her face, get up and walk out not giving her the time of day like she did you

Whiskey
 
stilleto said:
you see a fat chick, you think "lazy" or "stupid"
you see particular race or color and you think something about them somwhere in the back of your mind.
you see a woman covered in tatoos and you think she's a tough girl.
you see a milf, hair done up, long nails, designer clothes, and you think "princess" or "bitch" and "i want to do her".
we all judge.
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I feel everything you say bro...most perpetuate the stereotype(s) with no qualms whatsoever, but to me, I want to hear what someone has to say. That is the determining factor between weather or not I want to associate with someone or not.

Maybe I'm the one who's half nuts?
 
jack_schitt said:
I feel everything you say bro...most perpetuate the stereotype(s) with no qualms whatsoever, but to me, I want to hear what someone has to say. That is the determining factor between weather or not I want to associate with someone or not.

Maybe I'm the one who's half nuts?
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i totally understand
but let me ask you something
if you ran saw someone, say in a lobby or a store and she looked trashy/dirty/etc, would you say "hi. you look gross"
or, later, when you saw her and she was cleaned up and dresse the way you like and looking nice, might you just say "wow, you look different!" or "well don't you look nice!" and not mention that she looked like a skank ho before?

my only point was, you probably were being judged- but what else did the girl have to go on other than what she saw- later she saw something different and somewhere in her mind felt bad for judging you in the first place, seeing that you aren't always dirty and she complimented you.

you should still nut on her face, for the record.
 
People DO judge books by their covers.

Example;

3 days ago I made a brief sojourn to the grocery to pick up some necessities.

I was dressed "casual"--clean, but slightly weathered bluejeans, new white tennis shoes, a denim shirt with the sleeves cut off, and a "tribal" do-rag (didn't feel like fussing with my mop).

For whatever reason(s), I seemed to be attracting 2 different types of attention...people either gawked at me (I hate being stared at) or purposely avoided me; i.e. several people whom started down an isle I was in obviously turned and went elsewhere once they saw I was in the isle.

I did a pit check: "sniff--sniff...nope, deodorant is still working, that's not it."

I looked at my reflection in the stainless steel panels over the meat section to see if I had a giant booger hanging outta my nose or something.

Nope, good to go there too.

One guy almost collided with me as he began to push his cart from behind one of those big round bananna display things. I got an "Oh shit!--I'm sorry!" to go along with the mortified look on his face.

It's no big deal dood...wtf? :worried:

So, I get home and regale the GF with this same story and ask her wtf, to which she tells me that for whatever reason, the way I'm dressed makes me look "intimidating."

"Intimidating." That's interesting. :(

I don't see it, but obviously others did. I guess the sleeveless shirt and the do-rag combined to give me a certain "Charles Manson-esque" vibe or something.

Just seems very odd to me considering I'm actually a very quiet, somewhat timid person under normal circumstances...unless you piss me off...then I'll eviscerate you with my bare hands and make you watch as I eat your liver raw. :chomp:




Just kidding. :D
 
Thanks for all of the different angles on my thread orbs and orbettes. A lot of good opinions here.

It would be cool if none of us judged each other, but unfortunately, we all do it. I'm still sticking to my 'I would like to hear what you have to say first'...and screw what you look like, but I guess we aren't all the same. That's what makes life interesting.

I gotta go to bed now....14 more hours in the plant starting at 6:00p tomorrow (today).

Goodnight (day) all you good folks. :)
 
jack_schitt said:
I walk in the hotel this morning covered in dirt/grease/stank/Harley doo rag, baggy pants...the whole 9 yards. I said a polite 'good morning' to the girl at the counter as I walked past her to the elevator...she dismissed me with a look of disapproval like I was some sort of lower life form and didn't even return the kindness. Whatever.

Well, after I showered, changed clothes, and posted a few times on EF, I went down to sit in the jacuzzi for a little while. I had to walk past the desk on my way...and she yells out to me from behind "Hey...you clean up pretty nice Yankee boy." In a flirtatious kind of way. I just ingnored the shallow bitch and went about my business.

Hey now..sometimes I don't look my best, but I am always friendly and polite...just like when I was covered in dirt, and said good morning to her.

Why is it that a friendly gesture, no matter what you look like at the moment, isn't good enough for some people? My guess is that those people are missing a huge part of life.

Anyone agree?
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It depends a lot on location.

In this day and age there's no real excuse not to be able to afford to at least have one outfit's worth of nice clothes unless you lived in the sewer (I know you don't lol). So I can understand (though don't condone) peoples' disapproval when they see someone looking scrubby in a place where looking presentable is the norm, or expected. Our society is contradicting itself in a way though, since half the jeans you see advertised (that cost a lot of $$ more often than not) promote the "dirty" look- rips, stains, scuffed, etc- yet when someone is being authentic about it they get frowned upon. It's mostly the style-conscious who can tell the difference and make a big deal out of it though. And dirty shirts are never really acceptable in any public place (unless you work in a shithole like I used to and are on the job out and about), and it's doubtfull they ever will be. It makes people think "slob" while dirty jeans are more "hard worker," and that's just the way it is.

Generally speaking you will get more attention the better you dress, even though it's not always a good indicator of a person's self worth. There's a lot of trash walking around in suits and ties, and a lot of good people walking around like you did when the bitch dismissed you. People have to take these things with a grain of salt and know how to draw their own conclusions instead of letting society dictate for them.

And on a side note you should go and fuck that girl if she's hot, and then tell her before you leave that that's the only reason you did it because you wanted to see what it felt like to be as shallow as she was. :lmao:
 
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chefbone said:
This is why I hate first impressions. Judgemental fucks and their shitty egos.
PAIN, HATE, RAGE..aaarrrggghhhhhh :Chef: :tuc:
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Yeah, first impressions are a bitch. In many cases it's not that easy, depending on being in the right or wrong place at the right or wrong time. People who place a lot of importance in first impressions are afraid, small, and shallow.
 
stilleto said:
you see a fat chick, you think "lazy" or "stupid"
you see particular race or color and you think something about them somwhere in the back of your mind.
you see a woman covered in tatoos and you think she's a tough girl.
you see a milf, hair done up, long nails, designer clothes, and you think "princess" or "bitch" and "i want to do her".
we all judge.
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Remember back when we were kids and our minds were pure, no cares in the world? We all inevitably become corrupted; it's just how we deal with it that defines our character.
 
jack_schitt said:
I walk in the hotel this morning covered in dirt/grease/stank/Harley doo rag, baggy pants...the whole 9 yards. I said a polite 'good morning' to the girl at the counter as I walked past her to the elevator...she dismissed me with a look of disapproval like I was some sort of lower life form and didn't even return the kindness. Whatever.

Well, after I showered, changed clothes, and posted a few times on EF, I went down to sit in the jacuzzi for a little while. I had to walk past the desk on my way...and she yells out to me from behind "Hey...you clean up pretty nice Yankee boy." In a flirtatious kind of way. I just ingnored the shallow bitch and went about my business.

Hey now..sometimes I don't look my best, but I am always friendly and polite...just like when I was covered in dirt, and said good morning to her.

Why is it that a friendly gesture, no matter what you look like at the moment, isn't good enough for some people? My guess is that those people are missing a huge part of life.

Anyone agree?
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Word. What you look like may not be who you are, but society, through television, and movie reinforcement, has given us an idea of what a "good person" should look like. F*ck her if she can't see through her conditioning.

Zig
 
we all do it, everyday. there are just too many people in the world in your face at any one time, and so you pick and choose the ones you want to look at and associate with, subconciously. its not that shes superficial...she just doesnt have enough time in her life to give it to every smelly dirty stank mofo that comes her way ;)

dont hate, its just how the mind works. at least she remembered you, and comlimented you later. shes worth getting to know for a few minutes, imo

cheerios :)
 
jack_schitt said:
I walk in the hotel this morning covered in dirt/grease/stank/Harley doo rag, baggy pants...the whole 9 yards. I said a polite 'good morning' to the girl at the counter as I walked past her to the elevator...she dismissed me with a look of disapproval like I was some sort of lower life form and didn't even return the kindness. Whatever.

Well, after I showered, changed clothes, and posted a few times on EF, I went down to sit in the jacuzzi for a little while. I had to walk past the desk on my way...and she yells out to me from behind "Hey...you clean up pretty nice Yankee boy." In a flirtatious kind of way. I just ingnored the shallow bitch and went about my business.

Hey now..sometimes I don't look my best, but I am always friendly and polite...just like when I was covered in dirt, and said good morning to her.

Why is it that a friendly gesture, no matter what you look like at the moment, isn't good enough for some people? My guess is that those people are missing a huge part of life.

Anyone agree?
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agree totally. i look pretty rough myself. big, tattooed, shaved head and some visible scar tissue. i get treated pretty badly when i'm in the burbs. i kinda hate those fucks. heres what i don't like:

1) look me in the fucking eye. i hate it when i'm fucking walking towards someone or them towards me and they decide to inspect the top of their shoes as they pass.

2) when i offer you my hand to shake it, shake like you are a man. not one of these 3 fingered, dainty, dead fish grips.

3) speak up. i hate when i say, "hello" or "how are you today?", and i get a mumbled response...........
ok, i'm done, just pissed cuz all 3 of these happened today.
 
Thanks again for all of the responses...threads like this help lots of us folks to get to know each other better...and damn, most of us don't even know what the other looks like!!

Humantarget: I have long been a hater of the dead fish handshake as well. When I shake someones hand I try to break it.:)

That girl wasn't working the desk when I came in this morning, but the next time she is there, I'm gonna walk past the desk on the way to the hot tub and be polite as ever.

Kill her with kindness.

I also have until the 25th to nut on her face....so I'll keep ya'll posted.
 
HumanTarget said:
agree totally. i look pretty rough myself. big, tattooed, shaved head and some visible scar tissue. i get treated pretty badly when i'm in the burbs. i kinda hate those fucks. heres what i don't like:

1) look me in the fucking eye. i hate it when i'm fucking walking towards someone or them towards me and they decide to inspect the top of their shoes as they pass.

2) when i offer you my hand to shake it, shake like you are a man. not one of these 3 fingered, dainty, dead fish grips.

3) speak up. i hate when i say, "hello" or "how are you today?", and i get a mumbled response...........
ok, i'm done, just pissed cuz all 3 of these happened today.
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I'm with ya bor. I hate the girly shakes. Shake hands like a fuggin' man. If you don't have enough respect to look me in the eyes when you're talkin' to me, get the fug away from me!!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
who cares about a receptionist's opinion? the job requires mild retardedness so her opinion is void
 
I remember when I was at a dealership talking to my dad (he is the service/parts manager at this Chevy house) and in walks this dirty old guy who smelt terrible. He was in need of a shower. Anyways, he said he was looking to buy a car (this is the story I get from the sales guy who came back to the service dept to tell my dad about this guy). He says this guys wants to look at new 3/4 tons HD trucks...all the bells and whistles...basicly a $44,000 truck. So the salesman showed him the truck and thought nothing about it when the man says he will be right back with some money to get the deal done. Sure as a bear shits in the woods, the old man comes back in with a Cashier's Check for something like $39,000 and says he will only pay this amount.

As it turns out, the old man was a small rancher who just happens to have oil on his property. We never figured out when all of this was over why he was so dirty and stinkin when he came in that first time to buy that truck, but everytime after that...he was clean and dressed pretty dang nice. He is one the dealerships most loyal customers. I learned a serious lesson about first judgements that day!!!!!
 
texasbrainsandbeef said:
I remember when I was at a dealership talking to my dad (he is the service/parts manager at this Chevy house) and in walks this dirty old guy who smelt terrible. He was in need of a shower. Anyways, he said he was looking to buy a car (this is the story I get from the sales guy who came back to the service dept to tell my dad about this guy). He says this guys wants to look at new 3/4 tons HD trucks...all the bells and whistles...basicly a $44,000 truck. So the salesman showed him the truck and thought nothing about it when the man says he will be right back with some money to get the deal done. Sure as a bear shits in the woods, the old man comes back in with a Cashier's Check for something like $39,000 and says he will only pay this amount.

As it turns out, the old man was a small rancher who just happens to have oil on his property. We never figured out when all of this was over why he was so dirty and stinkin when he came in that first time to buy that truck, but everytime after that...he was clean and dressed pretty dang nice. He is one the dealerships most loyal customers. I learned a serious lesson about first judgements that day!!!!!
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Excellent post Texas....the guy may have just got done doing a job that involved alot of hard work.

I read a book called "The Millionaire Next Door" that makes several references to this sort of thing. It's a good read....pick it up if you get the chance.
 
I had to read a book for a business class about Estee Lauder -- when she first started having her cosmetics carried by dept. stores she would visit the counters. One day a plainly dressed Spanish-descent woman came to the counter, yet didn't speak English. The counter girl told Estee to ignore the woman. Estee said "We treat everyone the same!" (or something like that) & showed the woman cosmetics. The Spanish lady pulled out a change purse with a wad of $100s to pay for a bunch of stuff.

I've gotten treated that way before myself when I'm sure my Plat. CC has just the same $$ available on it or more than others dressed "nicer."
 
There's so many posts here I'd like to reply to, but can't. First off:
People are used to people looking a certain way as a lifestyle. Farmers in overalls, Gangsta's in loose clothes & lots of Bling, etc. First impressions are sometimes all we have to go on. If you want to get all primordial, it's part of the fight or flight process. ie. when Ivanofflitch had those reactions. Someone who purposely dressed like he did could be presumed to be a bad ass. If you ran into him & he was a bad ass, in a bad mood, you could reasonably presume to get your ass kicked.
The Farmer oil guy. He may have dressed like that on purpose to judge the character of the place he was going to throw a lot of his money at.
We all make presumptions every day, many so small as to be unnoticeable.
My own wife & daughter do it with me & I've known them for 25 & 19 yrs respectively!
I'd give the girl a break & recognize that she was willing to break from her preconception of your 'biker' image & talk with you the second time.
 
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