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PCT & Winny

bigpaisan

bigpaisan

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Is PCT necessary on a 6-8 week cycle of 50mg winny tabs??
I'm a first time user and would like some feedback on this.
 
Alot of the bros here will say thats not enough for a cycle.. however my first cycle was a winny only cycle as well and got decent gains.. but if I could go back in time I would have added test in there..Yes have PCT.. also get Milk Thistle for while on cycle.. and do some more research
 
bigpaisan said:
Is PCT necessary on a 6-8 week cycle of 50mg winny tabs??
I'm a first time user and would like some feedback on this.
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I have a question....why are you on a winny only cycle? :coffee:
 
Stats bro and what are you trying to do.... are you a marathon runner or something because this would be one of the only reasons to do Winny only because it raises your red blood cell count
 
I'm 6' 4" 275lbs early 20's, ive bin liftin for about 5 years now (3 yrs strictly). I am strict with my diet and eat every 2-3 hrs daily. Lean proteins, whole wheat grains, and leafy green vegetables are my diet primarily. I also use whey twice daily, (once post workout). At 275 lbs i already have the size, so im looking for somthing that will give me more defeniton and that "cut" look. This is why i chose the winny. This being my first cycle I didn't want to stack. I was also concerned with PCT and wonderin if it was necessary. What u guys think??
 
Better safe than sorry.

Clomid or Nolvadex should be fine. Personally I like Clomid using this schedule:
Day 1: 300mg/day
Day 2-11: 100mg/day
Day 12-21: 50mg/day
 
I was just curious about this because I am a first timer about to do 20mg of stanabol a day for 6 weeks. I rock climb so my goal wasn't to get huge at all, just increase strength.

I'm 25, 5'7 and 153lbs.
 
Agent Dana Scully said:
I was just curious about this because I am a first timer about to do 20mg of stanabol a day for 6 weeks. I rock climb so my goal wasn't to get huge at all, just increase strength.

I'm 25, 5'7 and 153lbs.
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horrible idea. wrong doses. wrong reason to take AS
 
You can use any AAS to cut. Your diet is what will give you your desired look.
I would not touch any AAS unless I had HCG and Clomid before I started. So, yes you need pct.
 
Agent Dana Scully said:
Really? Can you explain succinctly why? I've been told by 3 different people who recommended me this.
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Are you a male or a female? :coffee:
 
Winny is hit or miss and even more so if you take it alone. Are you opposed to injections? I would diet down and cardio up for a month to 6 wks. Then add in some anavar, turnabol, and primobolan. This sounds like a lot but it won't affect the androgen receptors much and PCT would be easy. You sound like you already have the foundation that most people have to take test or strong androgens to get. You are in a good spot. What kind of cardio are you doing? How many days a week do you hit the weights? How often on the cardio?
 
darwinmcduck said:
Winny is hit or miss and even more so if you take it alone. Are you opposed to injections? I would diet down and cardio up for a month to 6 wks. Then add in some anavar, turnabol, and primobolan. This sounds like a lot but it won't affect the androgen receptors much and PCT would be easy. You sound like you already have the foundation that most people have to take test or strong androgens to get. You are in a good spot. What kind of cardio are you doing? How many days a week do you hit the weights? How often on the cardio?
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I don't lift, except my own body weight cuz i rock climb. I climb one day, then cycle 20 miles within 1 hour with my road bike the next, then climb, then cycle etc... and rest on sat & sun

I can do one armed pulls and such, so i just wanted to increase my performance with my climbing a lot more.
 
The winny can be very bad on the joints. Just get you some anavar and take 70mgs or so a day. That will make you stronger and likely increase your performance but won't dry your hinges out like the winny.

Agent Dana Scully said:
I don't lift, except my own body weight cuz i rock climb. I climb one day, then cycle 20 miles within 1 hour with my road bike the next, then climb, then cycle etc... and rest on sat & sun

I can do one armed pulls and such, so i just wanted to increase my performance with my climbing a lot more.
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serapio2 said:
is glucomasine a new steroid??
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lol, nah:

Glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are substances found naturally in the body. Glucosamine is a form of amino sugar that is believed to play a role in cartilage formation and repair. Chondroitin sulfate is part of a large protein molecule (proteoglycan) that gives cartilage elasticity.

Both glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are sold as dietary or nutritional supplements. They are extracted from animal tissue: glucosamine from crab, lobster or shrimp shells; and chondroitin sulfate from animal cartilage, such as tracheas or shark cartilage.

What do they do?

Past studies show that some people with mild to moderate osteoarthritis (OA) taking either glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate reported pain relief at a level similar to that of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as aspirin and ibuprofen. Some research indicates that the supplements might also slow cartilage damage in people with OA. Definitive results about the effects of these supplements are expected from an in-depth clinical study currently being conducted by the National Institutes of Health.

http://www.arthritis.org/conditions/alttherapies/Glucosamine.asp
 
Agent Dana Scully said:
Male.
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He was asking because the normal dosage for a male is at least 50mg ED of Winny. At 20mg ED you won't notice anything it will be a wast of time and money.

I've done a couple winny only cycles, and I know they aren't popular on this board, but they do work depending on what your goals are. You should do some research and make sure you take liver protectents (like milk thistle) and something for your joints (glucosomine w/ MSM). Winny will DEFINITLEY shut you down so also make sure you have PCT ready. Clomid and Nolva should be enough.
 
If you are predisposed to having joint problems while taking winny, trust me in that glucosamine is not gonna work. It did not for me anyways
 
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones because I don't get any joint pains from winny... I always take glucosomine and MSM while on (just to be safe), but have never had ANY joint problems. I do however get crazy shin pumps while on the treadmill from winny.
 
YankeesMan said:
What says that?
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Almost everywhere i read that tells you to take stanabol (stanozolol) says:

Stanabol comes in 10 mg tabs. Stanabol is manufactured by British dragon. Stanabol is very popular anabolic steroid and is a derivative of DHT. It is a relatively low androgenic steroid which does not seem to aromatize. It can be toxic to the liver in excessive dosages. Very few user report water retention or any other side effects. It is a popular all purpose steroid; many stack with Primobolan depot for cutting, others stack it with testosterone for size and strength gains.

Women often use winstrol depot but occasionally it can cause virilization, even at low dosages. Users report that the muscle gains they make are solid, they are well retained after the drug use is discontinued. Athletes also find that the injectable version is far superior to the oral. Dosages are usually in the area of 16-30 mg per day for men, 4-8 mg for women.


This is just one source, but usually, they all say 15-25mg a day for men.
 
Agent Dana Scully said:
up you bastards :)
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I'm not trying to argue with you about this, but I don't know anyone who takes less than 50mg ED, ESPECIALLY if you're taking it alone.

Also ask yourself why does BD make 50mg tabs?

Here is something from another profile:

Pharmaceutical Name: Stanozolol
Chemical structure: 17 alpha-methyl-5alpha- androstano [3,2-c]pyrazol-17 beta-ol
Molecular weight of base: 344.5392
Effective dose: 50-100 mg/day injection or 50-100 mg/day orally

Stacking and Use:

Winstrol is best used at a rate of 50 mg a day. When in an injection that amounts to a single injection every day around the same time.
 
:evil:
YankeesMan said:
I'm not trying to argue with you about this, but I don't know anyone who takes less than 50mg ED, ESPECIALLY if you're taking it alone.

Also ask yourself why does BD make 50mg tabs?

Here is something from another profile:

Pharmaceutical Name: Stanozolol
Chemical structure: 17 alpha-methyl-5alpha- androstano [3,2-c]pyrazol-17 beta-ol
Molecular weight of base: 344.5392
Effective dose: 50-100 mg/day injection or 50-100 mg/day orally

Stacking and Use:

Winstrol is best used at a rate of 50 mg a day. When in an injection that amounts to a single injection every day around the same time.
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