PCT on EQ

[mphowells]

Been training with a lad at my local gym recently who is a bit of a know it all but is still quite a training partner.

He was taking the piss outta me saying that I didn't need to do PCT with an EQ only cycle. (Before anyone jumps on me about no test I am aware) and that he did EQ only did no PCT.

I try to spend a lot of time researching and was under the impression that after the last injection you wait about 10 days (little longer if you follow the PCT calculator) and start PCT. I was thinking 150 ed of Clomid for week and then tapering down to 100 then 50 over 2 other weeks.

Please don't tell me this chump is right and PCT is worthless???!!!

 

[conrad]

Mate, PCT IS NEVER WORTHLESS

you must always carry it out after a cycle

 

[solidspine]

I agree with Conrad, by the way how do your nuts feel?

 

[AhMadKooL]

Since it (EQ) shuts down your natural test production i think HCG is needed for PCT

 

[Mr.X]

Been training with a lad at my local gym recently who is a bit of a know it all but is still quite a training partner.

He was taking the piss outta me saying that I didn't need to do PCT with an EQ only cycle. (Before anyone jumps on me about no test I am aware) and that he did EQ only did no PCT.

I try to spend a lot of time researching and was under the impression that after the last injection you wait about 10 days (little longer if you follow the PCT calculator) and start PCT. I was thinking 150 ed of Clomid for week and then tapering down to 100 then 50 over 2 other weeks.

Please don't tell me this chump is right and PCT is worthless???!!!

HCG, clomid/nolva and arimidex - you need pct, it's not wortless.

 

[immortalis]

There is no cycle that a person could do without PCT being helpful, if not neccessary. You either help your body get back to its natural levels, or you dont and you crash... its that simple.

 

[justinjones1963]

Hoiw much EQ? I ran 400mg/wk for 12 weeks. Used clomid & nolva and AIFM and was just fine. I would have used HCG if I had it at the time. Kept all of my gains. Check out the PCT forum sticky and pick one of those. Also, I started my PCT around 17 days after my last shot.

 

[gtrcivic]

i'm on 450mg of eq for the past 5 wks.. see the veins becoming fuller and popping underneath the skin...

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

yeah buddy get a hold of some hcg if possible...i like a little trib in there ...i have no clue if it works though

 

[thebrakes]

guys, arnold and franco and zane and them never did PCT. they just tapered up and then down to avoid the HPTA crash when you come off cold turkey. plus they used smaller doses.

PCT is not absolutely necessary, but it sure helps when you cycle like most of us do, which is full-dose all the way through and then stopping.

 

[AhMadKooL]

guys, arnold and franco and zane and them never did PCT. they just tapered up and then down to avoid the HPTA crash when you come off cold turkey. plus they used smaller doses.

PCT is not absolutely necessary, but it sure helps when you cycle like most of us do, which is full-dose all the way through and then stopping.

I disagree; guys like those your talking about never came off

 

[mphowells]

great stuff so he is talking shit! I'll pass that onto him later.

In terms of PCt for me, i currently only have Clomid (Used it on a var only cycle and it did the trick) and i have a bit of nolva but I don't think HCG is too hard to get hold of.

thanks

Ps - my nuts are fine solidspine, thanks for asking.

 

[mikefear]

standard pct for prettymuch everything:

clomid, hcg, aifm

 

[toxicsambo]

Been training with a lad at my local gym recently who is a bit of a know it all but is still quite a training partner.

He was taking the piss outta me saying that I didn't need to do PCT with an EQ only cycle. (Before anyone jumps on me about no test I am aware) and that he did EQ only did no PCT.

Inform this genius that as little as 1 milligram/lb of bodyweight of EQ per week starts reducing HPTA function after week 3. "Happy trails to you, testicles, until we meet again"

 

[mikefear]

Inform this genius that as little as 1 gram/lb of bodyweight of EQ per week starts reducing HPTA function after week 3. "Happy trails to you, testicles, until we meet again"

1 gram, per pound of bodyweight, per week.. erm, so i'd need to inject 185 grams of EQ in order to shut down my HPTA?

 

[toxicsambo]

1 gram, per pound of bodyweight, per week.. erm, so i'd need to inject 185 grams of EQ in order to shut down my HPTA?

Not "shut down", I said "starts reducing". A difference there.

Mg, I meant. Sun offa Bitch. I'm running on 4 hours sleep, work with me bro. lol