PCT - Now what?

[centy]

Hey Bro's - I posted this in the PCT - post cycle therapy - forum, but everyone must be 'on' right now cuz things are sparse 'round those parts. Looking for any /all input and suggestions.

I'm running my PC T now. I did a short 8 week testosterone enanthate cycle with a Dball kick-start. Gained ~15 lbs on my first cycle. What a blast - Gawd I loved it. I hate to stop, but we'll see how recovery goes. If all is well, I'll hop back on for another ride in a few months.

My PC T consists of 500 iu HCGfor the first 5 days, along with Nelson's Post Cycle, Arimidex and some Derma Sustain. I have Nolvadex and Clomid on hand, but wanted to see if I could get by without them to avoid their sides.

So here's my question: I feel alright now, but have lost a little bit of strength. What else do I do to keep my gains? Everyone discusses/debates the proper substances to use and their dosages, but what's the other half of the PC T equation? What else do yall recommend to help recovery while keeping gains?

 

[matt75]

Bump.

 

[thebadguy54]

I've tried PCT without Clomid and with it. I'd add it in there.

 

[jumpmaster82]

i think clomid nova and adex is sufficient for almost any cycle. I would run it like this
week 1-clomid 100mg ED, nova 40mgED, adex .25mgED
week2-clomid 50mgED, nova 40mg ED, adex .25mg ED
week3- clomid 50mg ED, nova 20mg ED, adex .25mg ED
jmo i dont think hcg is neccessary after a short 8 weeker of dbol and test.

 

[healthfrk]

i think clomid nova and Arimidex - anastrozole - is sufficient for almost any cycle. I would run it like this
week 1-clomid 100mg ED, nova 40mgED, Arimidex - anastrozole - .25mgED
week2-clomid 50mgED, nova 40mg ED, Arimidex - anastrozole - .25mg ED
week3- clomid 50mg ED, nova 20mg ED, Arimidex - anastrozole - .25mg ED
jmo i dont think HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - is neccessary after a short 8 weeker of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and test.

this looks good, of course hcg couldnt hurt. thinkin of runnin the exact same short cycle to see if i recover from shorter cycles better than long ones.

bump on ur initial question, other than pct what else helps everyone keep gains coming off cycle?

 

[GUARDIAN]

some loss of strength is inevitable but getting your 8+ hours of sleep, proper diet, and keeping the same intensity in the gym (one of the hardest tasks to accomplish) will do well with pct to help keep gains.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i think clomid nova and Arimidex - anastrozole - is sufficient for almost any cycle. I would run it like this
week 1-clomid 100mg ED, nova 40mgED, Arimidex - anastrozole - .25mgED
week2-clomid 50mgED, nova 40mg ED, Arimidex - anastrozole - .25mg ED
week3- clomid 50mg ED, nova 20mg ED, Arimidex - anastrozole - .25mg ED
jmo i dont think HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - is neccessary after a short 8 weeker of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and test.

All that stuff won't help recovery any more or help maintain strength any better IMO. That much nolva would numb my dick like a shot of lydocaine. And he doesn't have gyno, so why bother?

Some loss of strength is inevitable but if you're stronger than when you started, you're ahead of the game.

 

[centy]

Thanks bros/ I'm around 16-17% bf and would like to drop this a little bit. Any suggestions on best way to go? I want the pounds to come off, but just the right pounds. (Not the ones I worked so hard for.)

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks bros/ I'm around 16-17% bf and would like to drop this a little bit. Any suggestions on best way to go? I want the pounds to come off, but just the right pounds. (Not the ones I worked so hard for.)

When it comes to dropping some fat, I like to keep it simple. Eat clean. Watch the carbs, but don't drop them too much. Decrease time in between sets. Break a sweat. No aerobics. You'll lose too much muscle weight. High reps and short breaks is the way to get the HR up.

As for supps -- I don't like stims but if you can tolerate them, just use them pre-workout for a boost. AMP 02 and VIGOR is a nice pre workout combo. ZIP will keep the thyroid hyped. DEFINITION will help you lose some water if necessary. After that, it's really up to training and genetics.