pct is for pansies...

[-Ariel-]

Okay, maybe not... If your looking for controversy, not here, just another boring upcoming cutting cycle question...
Week 1-16 Testosterone testosterone propionate 700 mg
Week1-8 Winnie 300 mg orally
Week1-8 Therma
Week 1-12 Derma
Week1-16 .5 Arimidex - anastrozole - e3d
Week 16-18 after last shot HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500 iu 10 straight days
Week 17-20 .5 Adex e3d nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 17-21 Unleashed Derma Post Cycle Sustain Alpha Amplify 02 (on lift days)

I'm 5 7 200 15% and looking to cut up, this is my 4th and longest cycle, farthest I've went is 12 with running test testosterone propionate 4 weeks past trenbolone e... I've never done HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during but considering it since this is so long... better for my hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - anyway... but feedback duly appreciated for a newbie...

 

[str8nubin]

Looks pretty nice

I'm guessing by prop dose you are going 100 ed? If so 16 weeks of ED might get tiring, especially of the prop ester.

You mention tren e being in the cycle but I don't see what dose, for how long, and when? But 4 weeks of prop past tren sounds very good and safe.

I would run winnie at the end so you get your peak dryness at the end without fear of joint pain early on in the "sweet spot"

Might be good to run the winny and tren at same time if you subscribe to theories of winny helping with prolactin - a plat search will uncover a lot of this info

Personally don't see the need for nolva in pct you seem to have covered the bases. Not so much because of tren that might somehow linger but mainly you got the goods for your pct without it

Consider running the derma in the last few instead of in pct.

Some other food for thought, dostinex/cabaser, letrozole, just in case. Aromasin.

Excellent thread to read: search for "the tren thread" it was fairly recent and good good info on supps to take with tren

And if going with adex, only use as it is needed unless you know your nips already gonna explode on this dose.

 

[-Ariel-]

Looks pretty nice

I'm guessing by testosterone propionate dose you are going 100 ed? If so 16 weeks of ED might get tiring, especially of the testosterone propionate ester.

You mention trenbolone e being in the cycle but I don't see what dose, for how long, and when? But 4 weeks of testosterone propionate past trenbolone sounds very good and safe.

I would run winnie at the end so you get your peak dryness at the end without fear of joint pain early on in the "sweet spot"

Might be good to run the Winstrol - stanozolol and trenbolone at same time if you subscribe to theories of Winstrol - stanozolol helping with prolactin - a plat search will uncover a lot of this info

Personally don't see the need for Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - in PCT - post cycle therapy - you seem to have covered the bases. Not so much because of trenbolone that might somehow linger but mainly you got the goods for your PCT - post cycle therapy - without it

Consider running the derma in the last few instead of in PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Some other food for thought, dostinex/cabaser, letrozole, just in case. Aromasin.

Excellent thread to read: search for "the trenbolone thread" it was fairly recent and good good info on supps to take with trenbolone

And if going with Arimidex - anastrozole - , only use as it is needed unless you know your nips already gonna explode on this dose.

Thank you so much, no I'm not running trenbolone e that was my past cycle, i have no intention of taking 3 compounds at once, I'm not nearly that advanced and plus tren e gave me the worst insomnia, for 8 weeks I would just stay up at night wondering if crazy strength increase and gains were worth it, I've taken tren a twice and tren e once and am never going back... sleep is way too precious, but yeah I fear the injection duration if going to get tiring, thank god I don't have injection pain history with test prop... I'm a pansy and too much of a puss to have to go through cycles limping, or having my breathing impaired by tren... loved tren, but too many sides... rambling, but you are right on, I'm dropping the nolvadex, I think the sustain should cover my pct instead... and will probably drop the adex rate lower, nipples have never been in danger, sensitive to gynocomastia, like not at all... thanks str8nubin... I've read some of your threads and I'm one grateful newbie for the feedback!

 

[str8nubin]

No problem, hcg, leashed, sustain for pct sound good

Take care