pct help!!!!

[doogle]

hi guys need some info on pct been on 4 mill ov test ex for 16 weeks ive also had proviron for 5 weeks with some anavar.can some one state the correct dose for hcg and clomid to get me back to normal.??thanks guys

 

[nydj66]

Immeidately after your last test injection, start 500IU/day of HCG for 20 days (10,000IU total). After that take 100mg/day of clomid for 3 weeks. If you want, you can take proviron along with the clomid for libido.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you probably dont need HCG.

clomid alone at 50mg for 3 weeks should be fine.

did you use an AI, during your cycle? if not you should, it will minimize suppression.

 

[nydj66]

you probably dont need HCG.

clomid alone at 50mg for 3 weeks should be fine.

did you use an AI, during your cycle? if not you should, it will minimize suppression.

Everyone is different but after 16 weeks on-cycle, I need HCG.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Everyone is different but after 16 weeks on-cycle, I need HCG.

on a test only cycle with proviron and a bit of anavar?

agree that some will, but generally not. though then again most people now use AI's as well during cycle (so perhaps the bias of that effect may color reccomendations)

 

[Primordial Performance]

Everyone is different but after 16 weeks on-cycle, I need HCG.

Running HCG durring part of the cycle is the best way to go IMO.

Nyd66, Why so much HCG anyway? Have you tried a lower amount to see if you get the same effect?

-Pp

 

[bigcats]

I am on hcg all the time. I am on hrt for the rest of my life. I taken 500units every three days. A ten thousand bottle of hcg last me 6 weeks. It is a small price to pay to keep your nuts plump. I dont go with the old school way of pct therapy. To bring your boys back from a long cyclce is to many worries. If not with hcg go with clomid. Also you should be taking a anti estrogen through out the whole cycle. I take 800 mg of test 500 deca 1mg of anastrozole(anti-estrogen) 4ius of growth for five days and 500units of hcg twice a week. I hope that not only helps you but every other person. be safe

 

[doogle]

listen dont want to sound dum but what is ai?so im still stuck on what to take help!and can you realy take proviron with clomid for libido?

 

[Bruce]

you man what kind of test and what was the dose. i always use hcg unless i am just running winstrol, var, or tbol alone.

 

[doogle]

big back man!ive been takeing 4 mil of test ex for 16 weeks with 100 mill proviron for last 5 weeks.can i takr proviron with clomid?please give me info on the pct possible.thanks

 

[macrophage69alpha]

listen dont want to sound dum but what is ai?so im still stuck on what to take help!and can you realy take proviron with clomid for libido?

aromatase inhibitor (inhibits androgen conversion to estrogen)

proviron will help with libido and modulate some of estrogen effects (affecting receptor expression, not decreasing conversion)

clomid is for restoration of natural testosterone production, it directly stimulates release of leutenizing hormone, it can also have positive impact on libido (though in some cases the opposite).

 

[doogle]

yer but can you take with clomid?

 

[Bruce]

ok 400mg ew isn't a huge dose, still i'd run 500ius of hcg for a couple days to get your testes up to size then run some clomid at 50mg ed for 3 weeks or more. i'd run aromasin 20mg ed during pct or aifm. those are both ai's, aromatose inhibitors

 

[mattrich]

wtf is test ex?

 

[doogle]

a know its not huge but thats my limit.i had 16 weeks before this cycle with 6 weeks off.so i start hcg 2 weeks after last shot of test??can some one stae correct dost thanks guys?

 

[doogle]

ok 400mg ew isn't a huge dose, still i'd run 500ius of hcg for a couple days to get your testes up to size then run some clomid at 50mg ed for 3 weeks or more. i'd run aromasin 20mg ed during pct or aifm. those are both ai's, aromatose inhibitors

just 3 shots of hcg seems not much shall itake for 2 weeks at 550iu aday then clomid,