PCT help test -E

[DSTiamat]

Hello, I posted on the PCT forum , but I need urgent info, so my problem is:
first Test -E cycle was fine, but PCT was conmpletely fucked up (got a really bad allergia from nolva lost all my Libido and gains in week2 PCT),so O WAY nolva, this now is my second cycle,looked like this:

1,500mg Test -E
2,500mg Test -E
3,500mg Test -E
4,500mg Test -E
5,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
6,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
7,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
8,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
9,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
10,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
11,500mg Test -E
12,500mg Test -E
13,500mg Test -E
14,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
15,500mg Test -E hcg 500UI
16-----------------hcg 1000UI
17 PCT
18 PCT
19 PCT
20 PCT
I took A-dex 0.5 EOD.
First question is should i wait 1 or 2 weeks between cycle and PCT?
I was planning for a Unleashed/Post Cycle/Tribulus PCT but the problem is
it hasnt arrived yet and it must be reshipped, I live in Europe ,3 weeks shipping, no way will it arrive in time.I have at hand A-dex, Clomid , Tribulus , how can I do a PCT somehow, I will keep the Unleashed/ POST Cycle for my next Beastdrol cycle 4 months away.

TY very much for your time( again)
DST

 

[25homes]

Bro I don't know wat you got going with your test mgs but makes no since...its your second cycle 500mg of test e a week be plenty...run it 14 weeks if you want run hcg whole time 250iu twice week whole cycle...read pct sticky for your pct

 

[DSTiamat]

Mate, that cycle is allready over, I was asking for a PCT, CLOMID, A-dex and Tribulus is what I have at hand because my shipping of Unleashed/Post cylce as INDICATED IN THE STICKY needs to be reshipped, im from Europe and it needs 3 more weeks to arrive, that would be plenty of late. My cycle is pretty easy to understand, dunno what do you dont get?
DST

 

[DSTiamat]

Noone? what would a Clomid, Adex (Tribulus)-PCT look like?
How to awoid estrogen rebound?

 

[t_i_c_a_l]

Noone? what would a Clomid, Adex (Tribulus)-PCT look like?
How to awoid estrogen rebound?

I'd start with 25mg of clomid for 4 weeks, test blood, make sure this dose brings your T to an optimal level (not over, but just under the top of the range), continue (or adjust dose if necessary) for another 4 weeks and taper off to avoid an "estrogen rebound". A dose this low is usually sufficient enough to raise test levels to the top of the range while helping you avoid sides. 8 weeks total minimum!

It is my personal belief that the whole "estrogen rebound" is actually not much of a concern when dealing with endogenous testosterone production. The high levels of endogenous T during PCT will come from continuous pulsatile release of LH throughout the day. This is vastly different than an injection of T, for example.

The body is much more suited to metabolize T at lower doses. For a patient on TRT for example; rather than take 100mg in a single shot once a week, the amount would be split up over EOD injections (roughly 30mg EOD). This is how many on TRT are able to control E without having to use an anti-e like arimidex. Keep this in mind when you're concerned about a possible estrogen rebound. It is highly unlikely when T is being produced in frequent, small amounts by your own testicles.

What we need to remember about clomid (and any other SERM) is that it is a selective estrogen receptor modulator. It blocks estrogen at certain receptors, and selectively activates other estrogen receptors. The goal is to find YOUR sweet spot - where enough receptors are blocked (causing your brain to release the appropriate gonadatropins to "restart" your HPTA again) as well as where enough estrogen receptors aren't activated (causing emotional side effects and issues with libido).

12.5mg is enough for some, others need 25mg, etc. If you're planning on cycling in the future, this is a perfect opportunity to determine what works for you if you're willing to spend a little money on some labwork.

When testing to find my own sweet spot, 12.5mg ED brought my T levels to just below the middle of the range. 25mg brought my T up to just under the top of the range. 25mg is my sweet spot.

Another important aspect of PCT to consider is the duration of supplementation. According to a medical study done at the University of Texas where clomid was used to restore the HPTA of a steroid user with T levels in the low 70s, 8 weeks of therapy was required to avoid relapse of low T symptoms. Following the 8 weeks of supplementation, the patients symptoms resolved and a month after cessation, T levels remained in the 600s.

To keep it simple, if you're going the SERM route, use just enough of a drug to elicit the desired response without unnecessarily exceeding the dose (confirm by labwork) and remember the importance of duration. With the appropriate dose, sides will likely be non-existent and you may actually feel very good during PCT. I learned this myself the hard way early on.

 

[hurricane]

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[Unrest]

If Clomid and Trib is all you have, I agree with TICAL

Just run a low dose for 4- 5 weeks then taper, Also use the Tribulus couldnt hurt!
You should have had this all on hand before starting the cycle!