PCT for 8 week Test E

[mcgrady1990]

I'm almost finished my first cycle, 8 weeks test e. I have Nolvadex and Clomid for pct, and was thinking something like:

Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/25/25

Is that too much for only 8 week test cycle?

 

[pzanity]

Hey I haven't even started my first anabolic cycle yet.

But a lot of the experienced users think nolva and clomid doesn't cut a good PCT,

I have some info, which ill post when I'm home, have to dig out my emails.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

On that cycle I would run The Post Cycle/Unleashed combo two weeks after last pin. Nolva to me is useless and clomid has to many sides or chances for sides. That's my recommendation.

 

[youngswoll]

Whats wrong with going the "Classic PCT" route? Now I've never cycled before but I've done some research and ask a lot of friends that are and none of them recommend going with an over the counter PCT by itself. Reason being that they are not strong enough to bring your test levels back to normal by them selves. There are great products to use with the "Classic PCT", from what I've been told. I'd check out some other source's for your info. This is the only site where the members promote these products as all you need for a Test only PCT. Makes me wonder, if someone's getting paid to do so.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Whats wrong with going the "Classic PCT" route? Now I've never cycled before but I've done some research and ask a lot of friends that are and none of them recommend going with an over the counter PCT by itself. Reason being that they are not strong enough to bring your test levels back to normal by them selves. There are great products to use with the "Classic PCT", from what I've been told. I'd check out some other source's for your info. This is the only site where the members promote these products as all you need for a Test only PCT. Makes me wonder, if someone's getting paid to do so.

So you have never cycled before and you are giving PCT advice? We don't get paid to give FREE advice. What we have done is tried all the so called tried and true methods of PCT and know what they do and how they effect your body. There have been numerous amounts of blood work done by alot of members here on the effects of these products. So before you imply that people are getting paid for the advice we take time out of our day to freely give you should really learn what you are talking about.

 

[youngswoll]

So you have never cycled before and you are giving PCT advice? We don't get paid to give FREE advice. What we have done is tried all the so called tried and true methods of PCT and know what they do and how they effect your body. There have been numerous amounts of blood work done by alot of members here on the effects of these products. So before you imply that people are getting paid for the advice we take time out of our day to freely give you should really learn what you are talking about.

Okay maybe I was regurgitating info (like needto says) from guys who have been stuck in the 19th century way of doing things. And I apologize for my last two sentences. Its just so frustrating trying to learn what is the best method. I was a firm believer of if it aint broke dont fix it. And I figured I could apply it to this matter. But reading Needto's post on post cycle therapy ( I belief it was on Sept 14 2011) open my eyes. So I retrack my hole statement it came from ignorance and lack of proper education. I would rather a product help natural production/suppression of my hormones then synthetically.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Okay maybe I was regurgitating info (like needto says) from guys who have been stuck in the 19th century way of doing things. And I apologize for my last two sentences. Its just so frustrating trying to learn what is the best method. I was a firm believer of if it aint broke dont fix it. And I figured I could apply it to this matter. But reading Needto's post on post cycle therapy ( I belief it was on Sept 14 2011) open my eyes. So I retrack my hole statement it came from ignorance and lack of proper education. I would rather a product help natural production/suppression of my hormones then synthetically.

No problem bro! I thank you for being man enough to come back in here and make the statements you just made. It is very frustrating when you get information that differs from so many sources. It is hard to really know who to trust. With that being said you get k from me bro for doing your research and making your own decision. Good stuff bro!

 

[needtogetaas]

Whats wrong with going the "Classic PCT" route? Now I've never cycled before but I've done some research and ask a lot of friends that are and none of them recommend going with an over the counter PCT by itself. Reason being that they are not strong enough to bring your test levels back to normal by them selves. There are great products to use with the "Classic PCT", from what I've been told. I'd check out some other source's for your info. This is the only site where the members promote these products as all you need for a Test only PCT. Makes me wonder, if someone's getting paid to do so.

Ok guys I can not wait any longer to post Nj's results. NJ had been on HRT for 5 years. In other words he has not come off of steroids for 5 whole years.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...ytoserms-347-daa-etc-hrt-people-755159-2.html
Because what is wrong with it is all your friends have no damn Idea what they are talking about. They repeat the same worthless crap the dude before him was repeating from the guy he heard it from.... Non a single one of them has ever studied the subject. I bet 90% of them have not even read 1 single book about it nevermind spent the better half of their entire lives dedicated to it like I have. Or like have the mods on this forum have. See Here at elite we breed "free thinkers" people who learn for them selves. People who read studies, who experience things for them self. People who read what billions of others have had to say. We learn what is up to date not what is 1930's .. Now read the entire thread I just gave you a link to^^^^^^^^^^ Than after that go to the steroid forum and read my taking steroids 101 thread from cover to cover as well as all the threads it links to... Than you can come back here and ask me this question again.. Only this time make a better argument than " tied and true" or " all my friends" .. Because here in my house that shit don't cut the mustard.

Welcome to elite my friend I hope you learn more than you had ever hoped for here. Make some good friends and get huge....... KILL THAT SHIT!!!!!!!

 

[stevesmi]

Whats wrong with going the "Classic PCT" route? Now I've never cycled before but I've done some research and ask a lot of friends that are and none of them recommend going with an over the counter PCT by itself. Reason being that they are not strong enough to bring your test levels back to normal by them selves. There are great products to use with the "Classic PCT", from what I've been told. I'd check out some other source's for your info. This is the only site where the members promote these products as all you need for a Test only PCT. Makes me wonder, if someone's getting paid to do so.

nolva is a drug given to women who had breast cancer. and it has a host of side effects. why people use it for pct i have no idea, just regurgitated info... it doesn't do much except bind to estrogen preventing it.. but thats about all it does.. you have to cover ALL BASES in a cycle and pct. there are BETTER WAYS. as far as clomid again it has side effects, so i would not run it more than 12-25mg a day. you could argue clomid covers 2 bases, but its still not enough.

you killed it in the gym on cycle, you should run a much better pct and not blow it. nolva/clomid pct will make you feel like crap and give you many sides.. your friends are aware of the sides but think thats just part of recovering.. IT DOESN'T have to be! and i bet these friends jump right back on cycle cause they feel like crap. see it all the time.

needto's pct or the pct in my signature will blow away a nolva/clomid pct anyday. and no we don't get paid to promote these pct's, i have blood work to show it works if you look up my tren log you will see my progress throughout the cycle and pct. i just want to help bro's out.. again you should NOT feel like crap on pct. lots of clomid and especially nolva (even just 10mg a day) will give you many sides.. naseau, lowered libido, acne, mental problems, depression, etc etc. these are real symptoms, not me making it up. look it up yourself or ask anyone who has taken them.. i know this firsthand cause i made the mistake of running them for pct my first cycle ever and learned my lesson the hard way. the problem is people ACCEPT that pct has to be hard and a struggle and they quit going to the gym.. it doesn't have to be that way!

 

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[lombardi727]

I'm almost finished my first cycle, 8 weeks test e. I have Nolvadex and Clomid for pct, and was thinking something like:

Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/25/25

Is that too much for only 8 week test cycle?

Personally from all the research I've done that is the foundation of a pct protocall. Personally I don't believe in OTCs for aas. They're not strong enough. No offense to anyone. I think for test only you'd be fine. Nolva is more for preventing gyno from estro so maybe grab some aromasin and use nolva on cycle if u get puffy/sensitive nips and pct with aromasin at 25mg and clomid.



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[vocor]

different folks react differently to the same drug. I've used Nolva for PCT, and it worked flawlessly. I didn't lose libido or become lethargic.
That being said, I could be in the minority, and their could be something better.
I would say if one thing doesn't work, tell a mod/vet about it, and they'll have some great, proven ideas that has worked for others.
Drugs are called drugs for a reason. They are more powerful . . . if you start off with them, your more likely to have a smashing success or epic fail than if you left them alone. Anyone discussing AAS should be fully prepared for this.

 

[Ripp42]

I'm almost finished my first cycle, 8 weeks test e. I have Nolvadex and Clomid for pct, and was thinking something like:

Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/25/25

Is that too much for only 8 week test cycle?

Dont use nolva unless you hv gyno symthoms. 25-50 of clomid 14 days after last inject for 21 days

Run unleashed and pct for five weeks 14 days after last inject. An if u really wanna get smart buy forma too.

Nolva supresses test! Side effect ED!

 

[tziaitzoou]

ok so let me ask you something ....how is a good PCT after a short cycle like 8weeks 30mg dianabol e/d and 500mg testoviron e/w ?
what if you dont use HCG?
what if you run this cycle with proviron 50mg e/d and arimidex 0.50mg eod
thank you
you will help me a lot

 

[Ripp42]

ok so let me ask you something ....how is a good PCT after a short cycle like 8weeks 30mg dianabol e/d and 500mg testoviron e/w ?
what if you dont use HCG?
what if you run this cycle with proviron 50mg e/d and arimidex 0.50mg eod
thank you
you will help me a lot

What ester is the test?

All you need is adex during cyc. And or Forma. Adex is a type 1 AI thats why its ran during cyc.

Keep orals to a max of 06 weeks if can. 30mg dbol is ok for 08 tho so ur good.

Hcg should be ran during cyc all the time I believe but is not a must. Helps ah hell alot with natty recovery to recover alot quicker. At least run forma during to speed recovery.

For pct get pct/unleashed and cont. To run forma thru out pct.

As soon as you get me the ester of test or esters I will be able to break down cyc for u.

 

[tziaitzoou]

testoviron = Testosterone Enanthate thanx for ur replay..i change a little my cycle with a short cycle ( 6 weeks )
.... i can tell you if you like ...just to tell me your opinion ..

 

[Ripp42]

testoviron = Testosterone Enanthate thanx for ur replay..i change a little my cycle with a short cycle ( 6 weeks )
.... i can tell you if you like ...just to tell me your opinion ..

Enanethane is a 10.5 day ester just start pct 14 days after last week of inject. 30mg is a safe low dosage u prob could run longer if wanted. Dbol bloats ppl alot sum hv used as a dbol only cyc for cutting. U could bump to 40mg and go 06-08 weeks.

 

[Ripp42]

Enanethane is a 10.5 day ester just start pct 14 days after last week of inject. 30mg is a safe low dosage u prob could run longer if wanted. Dbol bloats ppl alot sum hv used as a dbol only cyc for cutting. U could bump to 40mg and go 06-08 weeks.

Yes, tell me.

Just dnt run nolva its only for gyno. Order pct unleashed and drop clomid.

 

[tziaitzoou]

im going to run 6 week short cycle with

test e (testoviron) 1-6 500mg 2x250 e/w
dianabol (danabol ds) 1-4 30mg e/d
proviron 1-6 50mg e/d
arimidex 1-8 0.50 eo/d
nolvadex 8-10 40/20mg e/d
clomid 10-12 50/50mg e/d

what do you think?
...any advice its welcome about my pct ..i dont have hcg but its easy to find ..my opinion is.. its not nesasery
do you think its my pct overkill?
i dont have test pro and i want to try test e
this is all gear that i have now and im planning to start i want a simple pct after all
it doesnt matter about my gains any kg its welcome ...im 1.70 cm 72kg 10% fat
thank you

 

[Ripp42]

im going to run 6 week short cycle with

test e (testoviron) 1-6 500mg 2x250 e/w
dianabol (danabol ds) 1-4 30mg e/d
proviron 1-6 50mg e/d
arimidex 1-8 0.50 eo/d
nolvadex 8-10 40/20mg e/d
clomid 10-12 50/50mg e/d

what do you think?
...any advice its welcome about my pct ..i dont have hcg but its easy to find ..my opinion is.. its not nesasery
do you think its my pct overkill?
i dont have test pro and i want to try test e
this is all gear that i have now and im planning to start i want a simple pct after all
it doesnt matter about my gains any kg its welcome ...im 1.70 cm 72kg 10% fat
thank you

Test E is a long ester u nd to run it 08-10 weeks. 04 week ull feel sex drive change 06 lil results with streangth gains.

I dont think pro and adex are needed together. id pick one and run it but just google running proviron and adex together to find out more. Ive never used proviron.

Nolva is not a pct! Its only for gyno. Clomid is ok but jus old old not that good.

Run pct unleashed and buy some forma ull be happy! Those do what clomid never will.

Everything else looks good. Dont forget ur fish oil and n2gaurd!

Check ur pm.

 

[tziaitzoou]

ok thanx bro

 

[Ripp42]

No prob

 

[tucci]

can you please explain to me how i can go the non pharma rout like clomid and nova for a good pct?