Pct and my next cycle.

[pince]

Ok I did a very long first cycle and I am looking ahead to mid summer for my next cycle. As I wrap my current cycle up I have nolva and some pill I picked up at a nutrition store called 6estro. Is that 6estro a waste? Can I start taking it with my nolva? I also have estro suppress which I picked up last year when I was doing phs. Are these things ok to mix with my nolva? I also have hcg and I'm not sure if I inject the same way as I inject the test?

For my next cycle I'm thinking about:

Test e- 500wk 1-12
Dbol wks 1-4
Anavar weeks 4-12.

Thus first cycle I did just test e at 250 a week 1-6
500 wk 6-8
750 8-11
500 wk 11-17

I know its long but I just kept going. I didn't see a single side all the way through, not even water weight.

I'm 6'1 225lbs at the end of the cycle. I have been training about 8 years and about 4 days a week. I'm 30 years old. My diet sucked but I'm still happy with my gains. I'm gonna get my diet square before next cycle and hit it hard all the way through.

Seeking opinions.

Thanks


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[zsimpson22]

Ok I did a very long first cycle and I am looking ahead to mid summer for my next cycle. As I wrap my current cycle up I have nolva and some pill I picked up at a nutrition store called 6estro. Is that 6estro a waste? Can I start taking it with my nolva? I also have estro suppress which I picked up last year when I was doing phs. Are these things ok to mix with my nolva? I also have hcg and I'm not sure if I inject the same way as I inject the test?

For my next cycle I'm thinking about:

Test e- 500wk 1-12
Dbol wks 1-4
Anavar weeks 4-12.

Thus first cycle I did just test e at 250 a week 1-6
500 wk 6-8
750 8-11
500 wk 11-17

I know its long but I just kept going. I didn't see a single side all the way through, not even water weight.

I'm 6'1 225lbs at the end of the cycle. I have been training about 8 years and about 4 days a week. I'm 30 years old. My diet sucked but I'm still happy with my gains. I'm gonna get my diet square before next cycle and hit it hard all the way through.

Seeking opinions.

Thanks


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Hcg Can be taken either way, but normally people do it sub-q. Meaning with an insulin pin in the stomach. Some studies show if you don't do it sub-q, it doesn't last as long in your system.

 

[Judo Tom]

pince you should pick up some more stuff for PCT ASAP.. now

after 17 weeks on you are gonna want a very good pct and what you have now might not cut it

also next cycle.. pick 1 oral and run that.. dont use multiple orals and dont run the 1 oral longer than 4 weeks.

 

[pince]

What else do o need for pct? I hear so much crap its hard to figure out what is accurate. What's wrong with nolva?

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[DtownG]

What else do o need for pct? I hear so much crap its hard to figure out what is accurate. What's wrong with nolva?

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Get these items for your pct there all top notch and they do there job!

HCGenerate
Post Cycle
DAA
Unleashed

Needtobuildmuscle.com

 

[gymjunkie09]

Get these items for your pct there all top notch and they do there job!

HCGenerate
Post Cycle
DAA
Unleashed

Needtobuildmuscle.com

yep....and def follow with bridge after 17 weeks on

 

[Judo Tom]

What else do o need for pct? I hear so much crap its hard to figure out what is accurate. What's wrong with nolva?

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I always use
unleashed
formastanzol

if i think i need more ill go w/ post cycle and anything else that might help like hcg/hcgenerate, bridge, etc

 

[pince]

Maybe this is a dumb question..... What is the difference between hcg and hcgenerate? Formastanzol? Wow I thought I was all set. Seriously money is an issue here, if I'm buying all this stuff. What is a bridge? Wow after this thread I'm feeling pretty uneducated.

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[Judo Tom]

you gotta do a lot of research so you know.. but here is a quick breakdown

hcg - non otc, helps get your balls producing test again
hcgenerate - otc 100% legal, helps get your balls producing test again
formastanzol - great 100% legal anti estrogen w/ anabolic properties.. I believe at normal does it is non surpressive great addition to pct

you should def. try to get either hcg or hcgenerate. after a long cycle it will help. then id get unleashed if i was you.

 

[zsimpson22]

Maybe this is a dumb question..... What is the difference between hcg and hcgenerate? Formastanzol? Wow I thought I was all set. Seriously money is an issue here, if I'm buying all this stuff. What is a bridge? Wow after this thread I'm feeling pretty uneducated.

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Bro. For pct, all you need is your nolva, some hcg ( or HCGenerate if you can't find hcg), and if you don't want to feel like shit from your nolva, get some unleashed. Thats all that's necessary. The other things these guys are adding, are great additions, but not essential.

 

[pince]

That sounds excellent I have hcg and nolva. I would love to go drop 500 bucks on additions but I just can't. Now I just need to find antibacterial water. Thanks everyone

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[stevesmi]

Maybe this is a dumb question..... What is the difference between hcg and hcgenerate? Formastanzol? Wow I thought I was all set. Seriously money is an issue here, if I'm buying all this stuff. What is a bridge? Wow after this thread I'm feeling pretty uneducated.

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if money is an issue then juicing isn't for you.

food, supplements, ancillaries, acupuncture/massage/chiropractor visits... it adds up fast.

save your money for food and supplements for now. when you save up enough then you can worry about juicing. a nolva only PCT is gonna suck, you will probably lose your gains

 

[pince]

Well.... I just save the extra cash and the juice is not terribly expensive. I hear what your saying. What is your best advice on pct then? Seriously.... How do I keep my gains?

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[gymjunkie09]

Well.... I just save the extra cash and the juice is not terribly expensive. I hear what your saying. What is your best advice on pct then? Seriously.... How do I keep my gains?

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post cycle/unleashed combo
forma

and eat and train like your still "on" and you will keep a good amount of your gains

also avoid stims as much as possible during pct

 

[rich_89]

post cycle/unleashed combo
forma

and eat and train like your still "on" and you will keep a good amount of your gains

also avoid stims as much as possible during pct

This is the trick!

Most guys just lower the intensity of their workouts when they are in pct or off cycle.

WHY??

Train hard and mean every session!!!

 

[the_alcatraz]

After 17 weeks of test, I would just keep on it...possibly bridge. That's gonna be hard to recover from.

 

[gymjunkie09]

This is the trick!

Most guys just lower the intensity of their workouts when they are in pct or off cycle.

WHY??

Train hard and mean every session!!!

I would recommend lowering the volume...well if you're training like you should be during your cycle that is, but intensity should be 110% regardless

 

[rustilldown]

After 17 weeks of test, I would just keep on it...possibly bridge. That's gonna be hard to recover from.

It's not impossible by any means this day and age. Some promising reviews coming from triptorelin too but that is still a fairly new chemical to know for sure. All the need2build products mentioned are top notch from what I have experienced. Hcggenerate works wonders!

 

[Muscle2890]

Everyone is different I would start ur cycle use ur pct and some formastanzol. You should be go maybe get some caber for the tren.

 

[Potent]

post cycle/unleashed combo
forma

and eat and train like your still "on" and you will keep a good amount of your gains

also avoid stims as much as possible during pct

I have dropped stims completely(even on cycle) my gains are limited when I use stims, after all they generally suppress appetite.

 

[RickRock13]

post cycle/unleashed combo
forma

and eat and train like your still "on" and you will keep a good amount of your gains

also avoid stims as much as possible during pct

Great advice here. Eat big and train big in PCT, and use the right things to ensure recovery will lead to retaining a large portion of your gains

 

[pince]

Explain what u mean by bridging. It is my first cycle. I do have some anavar and could bridge with that but do I risk health problems? I was gonna wait and do the Var with my next cycle but if I can bridge with anavar and get cut for the summer instead of taking time off that would be great.

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