PCT all over the place HELP!!

[papawigg]

I started a cycle today my first I am really concerned with PCT I dont want to lose all my gains all of the research I have done is at all ends of the spectrum with Nolva, clomid and HCG I read Anthonys article I really liked it and the positeve feedback is what he suggested a fool proof PCT? Anybody with any other PCT advice

26 yrs 6'5", 242, 18%BF lifting on off since 15 religously for the last year in Iraq

cycle
WK 1-4 DBOL 30mg ed
WK 1-10 500 mg TEST E wk split M/TH
WK 10-12 100 mg TEST P e3d

I have clomid, nova, and HCG on hand for PCT I just need to decide which way to go. HCG in the middle of cycle with nova, and at the end? only at the end? nova and clomid together? please help

 

[nydj66]

Either nolvadex, clomid or a combination of the two will work fine for PCT. So don't get caught up in all the arguments about which is best. It's mostly a matter of personal preference.

It is a good idea to always take 20mg/day of nolvadex (but not clomid) with HCG to prevent both gyno and leydig cell desensitization. With a 12 week cycle you can run 1,000IU HCG M,W,F week 6, then again weeks 13 and 14.

Since you will need nolvadex to run with the HCG anyway, you might as well use it for PCT too. I run 20mg/day nolvadex with 50mg/day clomid just to keep the individual doses on the low side. I've had better recoveries with this combination than with nolvadex alone.

You probably already have the test-P but in the future, you can skip the switch to a shorter ester and just end your cycle with 3 weeks of HCG. This will keep your test levels high as the long esters clear your system. Again, it's a matter of personal preference.

 

[boston789]

OK ready? The last 4 weeks of your cycle use hcg at 500 ius eod; along with nolva at 20mg ed. Once you do your last shot; stop the hcg, continue the nolva at 20mg ed and start clomid at 50mg ed for about 3 weeks. Continue this for about a month or until you start to 'feel' normal again. FYI - doing prop e3d is a waste IMO. The least I would do is eod.

 

[papawigg]

OK ready? The last 4 weeks of your cycle use hcg at 500 ius eod; along with nolva at 20mg ed. Once you do your last shot; stop the hcg, continue the nolva at 20mg ed and start clomid at 50mg ed for about 3 weeks. Continue this for about a month or until you start to 'feel' normal again. FYI - doing prop e3d is a waste IMO. The least I would do is eod.

I was debating with e3d or eod I figured since I was a newbie I will go smaller but I think I will kick it to EOD

 

[Mr.X]

I started a cycle today my first I am really concerned with PCT I dont want to lose all my gains all of the research I have done is at all ends of the spectrum with Nolva, clomid and HCG I read Anthonys article I really liked it and the positeve feedback is what he suggested a fool proof PCT? Anybody with any other PCT advice

26 yrs 6'5", 242, 18%BF lifting on off since 15 religously for the last year in Iraq

cycle
WK 1-4 DBOL 30mg ed
WK 1-10 500 mg TEST E wk split M/TH
WK 10-12 100 mg TEST P e3d

I have clomid, nova, and HCG on hand for PCT I just need to decide which way to go. HCG in the middle of cycle with nova, and at the end? only at the end? nova and clomid together? please help

HCG, 500IU ED for 10 days.
week 1: .25mgs arimidex EOD
week 1: 60mgs of nolvadex ED
week 2-3: 40mgs nolvadex ED
week 4: 20mgs nolvadex ED

 

[shivastool]

HCG, 500IU ED for 10 days.
week 1: .25mgs arimidex EOD
week 1: 60mgs of nolvadex ED
week 2-3: 40mgs nolvadex ED
week 4: 20mgs nolvadex ED

Mr.X,

When do you start the HCG? At week 1...or?