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Anigo said:


Pretty harsh accusation... if posts were deleted, people would be pissed I'm sure and other posts would be popping up about mods scamming, blah blah. I think its safe to say this product kicks ass...

no pics right now... but i look incredible. Damn I'm hot. :)
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Those posts could just be deleted as well.

I have had numerous posts deleted.

Every time I have debated macro about topical yohimbine, the threads have disappeared. He actually let the last set of them go on for more than one day before getting rid of it, which was a pleasant change.

When, it was finally made to disappear, someone did post questioning where the threads went -- and, wouldn't you know, that thread disappeared within about 5 minutes.

Macro keeps a very close watch on this board -- I have had posts questioning his statements disappear within a couple of minutes of my posting them.

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com
 
Par Deus,


Your threads were not deleted nor were your posts, they were moved to a NEW THREAD, one that YOU posted to several times. As will these as THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD.
 
ulter said:
For Chrissakes Par Douche these guys are right, give it a rest. Yohimburn kicks ass and all your whining isn't going to change that. Do you see any "where is my yohimburn" posts going up anywhere at all? No, because there are no posts being deleted. You may have some personal problem with Macro, but the guy has spent a lot of time helping literally thousands of people here for two years and he is to be highly commended for what he has done for the members of Elite. He's a great guy, get over it.
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Sick him boy !!! L.O.L







WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE #1
2 IS NOT A WINNER AND
3 NOBODY REMEMBERS !!!!
 
Par Deus said:



I have had numerous posts deleted.



Macro keeps a very close watch on this board -- I have had posts questioning his statements disappear within a couple of minutes of my posting them.

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com
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I think you should re-word this. I PAR DEUS HAVE HAD SEVERAL OF MY POSTS... THAT WERE ADVERTISEMENTS.. DELETED.
 
macrophage69alpha said:


I think you should re-word this. I PAR DEUS HAVE HAD SEVERAL OF MY POSTS... THAT WERE ADVERTISEMENTS.. DELETED.
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Whatever, Macro. You and I both know you are full of shit.

Fraud.
 
ulter said:
For Chrissakes Par Douche these guys are right, give it a rest. Yohimburn kicks ass and all your whining isn't going to change that. Do you see any "where is my yohimburn post" posts going up anywhere at all? No, because there are no posts being deleted. You may have some personal problem with Macro, but the guy has spent a lot of time helping literally thousands of people here for two years and he is to be highly commended for what he has done for the members of Elite. He's a great guy, get over it.
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As I said, I have had numerous posts deleted. Macro claims they were advertisement, but he is lying. People can choose to believe me or not -- I expect most of the sheep will choose the latter.

Whether he has deleted other posts that reflected negatively on you guys' product, I have no way of knowing, but based on my experience with him in this regard, I would certainly not be at all surprised. He follows the board extremely closely, so it would not be difficult for him to silence opposing views. If you ever go to T-Mag, you may notice no negative comments appear about their products either. Not difficult when you can pick and choose what stays and what goes.

BTW, very clever with the "Par Douche" -- name calling is certainly a sign of a great mind.

Macro could put an end to all of this very easily by voluntarily giving up his moderator status.
 
macrophage69alpha said:

Dont take it personally that Yohimburn is so well recieved... unlike your product which strangely no one else posts about .. and I know that there are several people on this board who have sampled your wares.. must not have been anything worth commenting on :)
:) :)
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The only thing I take personally about Yohimburn is the fact that you delete my posts and or the entire thread when I am handing you your ass in debates on the subject.

And, actually, not long ago at all there was a thread that someone started about our products, which received nothing but favorable responses -- and wouldn't you know, it mysteriously dissappeared. When a competitor is able to delete posts, that sort of thing happens.

Just out of curiosity, how many retailers have picked up Yohimburn??
 
macrophage69alpha said:


The only fraud is you touting Tranquili-g as GHB ... nonsense
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Tranquili-G is not touted as GHB. It is specifically stated on our website -- and I have specifically stated in numerous posts -- that its subjective effects on not nearly as strong as GHB's. That the active ingredient converts to an analogue of GHB that was found to bind to the GHB receptor with 15% greater affinity than GHB itself is a fact. Of course, you already know this, but you cannot hang with me in any argument of facts, so you resort to this sort of thing.
 
I would like to have seen such a thread, the only ones that I have seen are regarding complaints or dissappointment- the tranquili-g thread being one of them.

You can discuss this with your self.. I am done.
 
barnidge said:
What is the difference in the CONTENT of both of your products?
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The short version:

Ours has twice as much yohimbine, better penetration enhancers, and a carrier that has been shown to localize delivery of its active ingredient to local tissues (rather than the active being taken up by the dermal micrpvascular and delivered systemically before it ever gets to the adipose tissue, as is the case with typical transdermal delivery.

For the long version see the following threads:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73267

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73171

There were two more that were going at the time, but they seem to have disappeared.

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com
 
OK to settle this....

I will be the guinea pig for both of your products...... I will voluntarily take a "test" bottle of each of your products and use them.... I will give before and after pics.... My BF% is 10.3% right now.... I will use Par Deus first and see the results (prob more significant cause there is more fat to lose) and then use Macro's (to really tighten up the cuts).... Of course that would mean that you would both give me free bottle of your product to use ....huh? Otherwise I am sticking with the "rest of the sheep" and going for the Yohimburn. EVEN IF there were some negative things said and deleted you cannot argue with the results of those that have had success....and so many have......

TO explain my comments/joke above.... I once used a topical solution from Klein Becker before and it sucked. They guaranteed my money back, I dieted and used other ECA, Adipo with the product for well over 2 months.... NO LUCK. It took me almost 3 months to get my money back from them. If the product had slightly worked I would not have cared about the money. I am somewhat skeptical of all topical products but I am really interested in this YombineHCL and also Yohimburn.... I only see one post of results.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
I think you should re-word this. I PAR DEUS HAVE HAD SEVERAL OF MY POSTS... THAT WERE ADVERTISEMENTS.. DELETED.
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Haha, that sounds good. Ever heard the phrase "the pot blaming the kettle for being black" ?

Yohimburn sucks, deal with it.


***my name is big cat.. I SELL par deus's products... I have never tried yohimburn****
 
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Par Deus said:
No, that one was only made to dissapear from at least the first 6 or 7 pages of forum.

The ones that were deleted were earlier ones -- you are well aware of the ones i am referring to.
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Moderators secret, never tell, never let on. Especially if you got something to hide. haha.

Yohimburn, that still cracks me up
 
I have used yohimburn and now i am using lipoderm. i will make comparisons at the end. one thing already is that lipoderm is easier to apply but yohimburn smells better.
 
any specials

Par Deus

Will you be offering any price breaks anytime soon?

buy one get one free would be nice for the month of January

Sirwanksalot
 
Big Cat HH said:



***my name is big cat.. I SELL par deus's products... I have never tried yohimburn****
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You're such a fucking fraud, Macro.

Big Cat does not sell our products. Bodybuilding.com sells them, and BC is a moderator on their board, but from what I understand he receives no money from them. He certainly does not receive a penny from us.
 
This tread is not heated... this thread is MONTHS old.. dredged up at PAR DEUS's Request by Big CAT...(who sells par deus's products).. I recieved an E mail that par deus had posted a thread on another board requesting that others search for yohimburn and his name together.. as opposed to just yohimburn which would give hundreds of USER testimonials regarding the efficacy of yohimburn and not his extremely slanted and incorrect view.

For the record the alcohols used in Lipo cause a complete disassociation of the HCL.. this leads to DEGRADATION of yohimbine as unbound yohimbine degrades rather quickly..IT DESTROYS THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT... which is why you will find that you cannot buy a NON- SALT(though usually HCL) bound yohimbine.

second the wonderous delivery system that is discussed on the avant web page IS NOT EVEN CONTAINED IN THE PRODUCT.. it contains ONLY 2 of the 3 components used in the studies...

Third this discussion is at an end..
 
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