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From those who have experience with paper steroids, which cycles did you use? And was your PCT the same as if they were injectables? Which do you think would be the most effective standalone?
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Cauliflower Ear
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Ulter said:
when are people going to get this
The New Guy
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people who have actually done paper cycles say they are an awesome stand alone cycle - and thats from bodybuilding forums, not the sellers websiteCauliflower Ear said:
they are not intended to just be supplemented with injectables
Paper is the same as tabs. Period. Just a different presentation for various reasons. I almost made the mistake of an oral only and I am glad that I didn't. I wouldn't use them as a stand alone, no matter what anyone says. too many horror stories of oral only cycles.
nicpanek, if you are dealing with the guy I have dealt with, then yes, they are the exact same as tabs.
nicpanek, if you are dealing with the guy I have dealt with, then yes, they are the exact same as tabs.
jagerbombme
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lotsa people here are running oral only cycles, you seem to get it outta them if you refer to it as a bridge. then all of a sudden everyone's saying yea, i ran some tbol by itself or i ran some var by itself between cycles. i have not read horror stories but would be interested to hear what you have to say on this my friend? i was thinking of a tbol bridge here or there. maybe dbol, i dunno, maybe var again, i liked var, and all this var bloat talk. i had no bloat what so ever.
when i started my cycle last april i did an all paper stack with paperprimo at 30mg/day, papervar at 40mg/day, and paperwinny at 50mg/day, started at 205 lbs and 20% bf, went from a shitty diet to a clean high protein diet, 6-7 meals/day, did cardio 3 times/week for 20 minutes, stayed on this cycle for 2 1/2 months and my stats were 198 and 11% bf. I didn't do pct, because I went staight into another cycle, just changing compounds. the paper products are the shit, they are as good as if not better than any orals on the market.
Cauliflower Ear
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The New Guy said:
bro, i dont care...orals are only to supplement injectables...and thats how it goes
doublefister
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They'll get it after they do an oral only cycle and realized they gained 10lbs of water...
The New Guy said:
Paper products are great, but they are made to be discreet. 10mg of Dbol from paper is the same as 10mg from a pill. There is no difference there.
People have been preaching for years not to take orals alone as a cycle for a reason. This is from trial and errors from many users over many years, and it is not just some new wave of people here at elite. If oral only cycles were that effective, then most people wouldn't hassle with IM injects. They are stating these responses to inform people of not wasting their time and money...nothing more. You are misinterpreting what Ulter stated. Yes, you will get gains from any AAS you take, but if taken with an injectible, it enhances it tremendously.
However, feel free to do what you want to....
BMJ
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nobody with any research would do an all paper steroid cycle. Its silly! Those that posted gains need to repost in a month or two. And finally the guy here who thinks it made him lose weight I suggest run that same cycle and eat the way you ate Before your diet and before you started doing cardio. and report back what happens. You more than likely lost weight because you started to eat right and you did cardio. You could have saved your money and done the same thing. Paper gear are not diet pills they are there to GAIN muscle mass and strength. Does it help a little? I blieve it does but not by very much! jmo
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What about an oral only cycle of VAR?
fisttotheface
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Twoguns said:
Twoguns,
You use RC? yes thats cryptic but if it's him you will know who i am referring to.
Cauliflower Ear
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The New Guy said:
now do you see what im talking about bro, the vets stepped in and now you can see hopefully....as for var only...are you just doing a power lifting competition and need a little more strength if not...what about fuckin test bro...run test with var....
