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gettnlarge01
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Would it slow my progress? What is this weed?Is it a new supplement?Do you have any samples?
gettnlarge01
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If I find some of this weed how often should I take it to help me mellow out?How much works for you or should I stick to a beginner dose?Is there a certain brand to get or is it all the same?
sparetire
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JKurz1 said:
brother, tylenol isn't an opiate, as I'm sure you fully well know, but taking it isn't going to break your cleanliness over the past 5 days. Take one of those night time tylenol pms or something to help you sleep a little better - maybe toss in some melatonin. It takes about 11 days for your body to rid itself of hydro. Just hang in there and the sleep will return, just take whatever you need for the pain - tylenol, asperin, alieve, advil, etc. it won't effect your sobriety.
and to the other 2 who hijacked this thread, please, take it into the appropriate forum. We realize you want to make your point about God and darwinism/atheistic views, but this thread is about addiction so please respect us.
bas4lizzife
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JKurz1 said:
dont worry about using the otc meds. Its the actual opiods that act on the CNS that have caused dependence. Staying off these is what will clean out those receptors and end withdrawal. tylenol is in many prescription narcotics, but it is the non-narcotic portion. it's the hydrocodone that causes physical dependency
Anthony Starks
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bas4lizzife said:
There you go, its fine.
beefcake28
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JKurz1 said:
Done.
bmcadoo44
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for some strange reason. I know many roid heads that are addicted to lorcet and other pain killers, but i just dont know why. I myself was an addict and i know of an old friend that use to be huge and supplied most of my ppl roids but he is now small and shrunkin up do to being an addict.
neXtLiLthing
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Pick your poison.....not poisons
LiquidPhire
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bmcadoo44 said:
I couldn't agree with you more , I used to be addicted to pain pills mainly percs with no tylenol and oxycontins and even did fentanyl a few times.. Went to rehab and now I am in the best shape of my life, no more doing/selling drugs for me. =P well AS are drugs but, still. You get the idea..
I must say relocating has alot of positive things , new girls , new people , being able to cut off the negativity and negative past.
There a nasty habit to kick and I don't recomend anyone fuck around with any form of opiate... If anything, smoke the ganja.
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sparetire
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JKurz1 said:
I told ya bro, it takes about 11 days, maybe longer depending how long you've been on. Even though you claim only 1-2 a day for a year, your body is physically addicted to the pain meds and it needs to start working without the dependancy of them. Tylenol isn't addicted and yes it's in vicodin, but it's not making you or will make you addicted, it's the hydro that's in it.
Take 2 tylenols for the pain and take a few imodiums for the diarrhea. Immodium is a cousin of an opiate, but it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, meaning you can't get addicted to it, but your body reacts in a way that it won't wd as hard due to the immodium settling the stomach down. Trust me on this one. Just follow the directions on the immodium ad and it should help you with your diarrhea, but some addicts withdrawing from opiates will take up to 8 immodiums to keep the stomach in check, everyone is different.
There are ways of wds without professional help, and if you can do it, that's awesome, but most will seek professional help and will need drugs like "suboxone" which is an opiate but without the euphoric feelings..and then they taper you off with that.
If you do it on your own, you gotta do it with some over the counter meds like tylenol, immodium and night time cough meds to help you sleep and help you with the pain.
There is another natural herb that a lot of addicts are using to withdraw with great succes. It's called "Kratom". You mix it up like a tea and drink it and I think it's like an opiate in a way that it tricks your body like if your high on real opiates and it even gives you a high feeling. I haven't tried it personally, but if anyone here has, now's the time to chime up bro. If you need anything feel free to pm me.
JKurz1
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No, I am not gonna need profesional help and I appreciate the insight. Not only have I been cold turkey for 1 week today, but I have had no pain relievers at all for fear of ruining my wd. So thanks for the insight. Only problem I feel now is stomach bloating and chills. The lack of sleep sucks, and I will invest in some tylenol pm....thanks again.sparetire said:
Keep us posted on your work..gl
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I would not ever ever toch them again I took them for years and quit 27days figured "im all good" took 2 cause i was really sore and after5 hours i was already starting to feel withdrawals and was all hooked again its like an alchoholic.. if he is sober for 2 weeks can he go celebrate his sobriety by going and having 1 beer with his friends.............Fuck No!! Stay away for your own good or give yourself at least 6 months thats how long it takes for most peoples body to start to produce dopamine again (your body stops making it when you start taking pills) that is why when you quit them you feel even more sore than before you started. give your body time to fix itself take aleve i believe it is the strongest otc medicine. it was prescription 5-6 yeatrs ago!!JKurz1 said:
boz44
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JKurz1 said:
NO! I went through all the withdrawls etc. Then decided I could handle more months later. Big mistake. I am currently trying to taper down so I can start a cycle soon. You should feel strong for quitting on your own. Stay strong, don't touch one again for any reason.
Anthony Starks
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JKurz1 said:
Really, really bad idea. Just chalk it up as something you can never have again, if you start up again you will just get addicted again, only worse this time.
JKurz1
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I know I am not addicted.....maybe at one time, but not now.....I went clean for two weeks and had some major pains in my lower back from heavy deads Friday. I had 3/4th of a tab two nights ago. Did nothing for me that advil won't do and I truly have no desire to touch them again. It just turned my stomach. I guess that's the difference, although I was only taking a MAXIMUM of ONE a day for a while, they were always 1/2 in the am and maybe 1/2 in the pm.....those taking upwards of 5,10,15 etc. must suffer the worst. I have no desire to use them...I'll stick to advil and tyelonol when I need it........
sparetire
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JKurz1 said:
The answer is "yes" you can take them if you weren't psychologically addicted to them. For those that are, that answer would be a big difference. It's the same thing for those who pick up a few bottles of beer and put it down and have no problem with that. It's the ones who get off the feeling and taking them just for that - the euphoric high. I, myself, am not the type who is like that. I was on them for a while myself trying to cope with pain issues. I didn't realize it at the moment, but I became physiologically addicted to it, not pyschologically, and so when i quit, I had a REAL tough time with it. I mean, my brain said, well, my pain is gone now after my surgeries etc, but wtf is this wd stuff.. My chest would feel heavy and tight like I was having a panic attack, legs would hurt and would get the runs. I did a little research and found out about wd's and how to taper off of the meds. I took my last one today and I already feel better. But with that being said, I have had vicos all my life and migraine meds for just that - migraines. I never had a problem with them at all, would take 1 for the pain. It was only until i had other issues from injuries etc that got my body hooked on it. So, I decided I'll just get off, and I did. If you're like that, then you won't have a problem with them in the future.
There's a reason why a doctor says, " 1-3 tabs a day for 2 weeks..." If you stay within normal dosages for a short period of time, you won't become physiologically addicted to it or psychologically addicted. If you abuse them and take 5-15-50 a day, you'll be screwed. And in all honesty, I couldn't even fathom taking 40-50 a day! I hear stories about that all the time.. I guess being a fitness nut makes me more conscientious about liver and kidney issues. Anyhow, stay sober and gl.
bas4lizzife
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how long after your last tab did the withdrawals set in? I'll admit that I have defintely been abusing painkillers the past few months. It becomes a HUGE problem when you take them to block emotional pain, as I have. As of late I had been getting high 5-6 nights a week, sometimes railing back to back 80mg oc's. I had a bad experience last monday night with way too much methadone and morphine and woke up sick as fuck.. stayed clean until thursday night, had an 80, have been clean for about 65 hours now with no physical withdrawal symptoms and no real mental craving as I am understanding how detrimental this is to not only my wallet, my mental state in the long run. You think i'm lucky and have not established that physical dependance and I can walk away without the wd's?
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