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Thanks Macro. That is what I expected to hear. Lighter period? For those with light periods anyway (me), it becomes totally nonexistant! The only "symptom" of my period was the water retention. If I didn't have that, it would have been like every other week!
 
macrophage69alpha said:
how much 7keto are you taking orally?

how much Pseven were you taking?

btw- certain samples will be made available for testing..

Vitamin Shoppe Brand:

50mg 7-Keto DHEA for 4 days.....and then I'm bumping this to my usual 100mg 7-Keto DHEA/day.

I primarily use it for immune function and post-T3 recovery.

With P7, I was taking 1/2 pipette/day for 5 days, then 1/2 pipette AM and PM after that(For a total of 1 pipette). I started breaking out when I went to the 1/2 pipette and 1/2 pipette protocol(AM and PM). After that I quit, and no more break outs whatsoever have hapenned. My cutis cleared very, very fast.

Since 6-oxo-DHEA doesn't aromatize b/c of its molecular structure, the culprit of my break-outs HAS to be the pregnenolone.

I find it funny, that I'm the only one who broke out........hmmmmm.. :)

Stastistically, the odds of ME, and only ME breaking out is extremely low.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


Vitamin Shoppe Brand:

50mg 7-Keto DHEA for 4 days.....and then I'm bumping this to my usual 100mg 7-Keto DHEA/day.

I primarily use it for immune function and post-T3 recovery.

With P7, I was taking 1/2 pipette/day for 5 days, then 1/2 pipette AM and PM after that(For a total of 1 pipette). I started breaking out when I went to the 1/2 pipette and 1/2 pipette protocol(AM and PM). After that I quit, and no more break outs whatsoever have hapenned. My cutis cleared very, very fast.

Since 6-oxo-DHEA doesn't aromatize b/c of its molecular structure, the culprit of my break-outs HAS to be the pregnenolone.

I find it funny, that I'm the only one who broke out........hmmmmm.. :)

Stastistically, the odds of ME, and only ME breaking out is extremely low.

Fonz

No true, I've been posting all along that I was breaking out.

I have NEVER had problem skin, even as a teenager. I think I have had about real 10 zits in my lifetime. While using P7 I broke out, but as I posted, I switched face wash to an acne fighting one (neutrogena) and the problem went away.
 
Daisy_Girl said:


No true, I've been posting all along that I was breaking out.

I have NEVER had problem skin, even as a teenager. I think I have had about real 10 zits in my lifetime. While using P7 I broke out, but as I posted, I switched face wash to an acne fighting one (neutrogena) and the problem went away.

EKK!! Break outs! Yukko.. where exactly were you breaking out and where were you applying the lotion. I ordered some yesterday..
 
I broke out a tiny bit, right in between my eyebrows....what a strange place!

although I like taking P7 before bed, to me its not worth ruining my skin, which hs never broken out before.
 
300mg of 7keto a day is probably more comparable. with comparable bioavailability...

though still looking into to the exact cause and tweaks necessary.. to accomodate those with this problem.

anyone here with increased acne using the orange?

btw- seems like 1 in 5 have some increase in "oilyness"...

and a higher ratio is being made available for those seeking the 7-oxo dominant effect (actually a "male" formula is also in the works) and a sleep enhancer---
 
this MAY be the issue.. the peppermint has a very short lag and rapid release... thus a spike (which people seem to enjoy) but it is also more likely to cause disturbances..

7-oxo has super long half life so.. but again may be a spike and enzyme issue..


the orange is IMHO better for continual use.. the peppermint is for immeadiate relief and for those that "like" the spikes (and the demi- euphoria that may accompany them)

but keep in mind that there are lots of endocrinological variations.. so to find something that works for everyone equally is difficult.. hence there will be various versions.. to get the effects YOU want.. :D
 
Friscochick said:
EKK!! Break outs! Yukko.. where exactly were you breaking out and where were you applying the lotion. I ordered some yesterday..

Applying on my forearms (inside).

Breakouts are mostly on the sides of my nose. When I say breakouts, I mean they are tiny whiteheads, easily poppable (yes, I know you aren't supposed to).

Like I said, I switched to the Acne Free Neutrogena face wash and astringent and have had no more problems. I stopped putting lotion on my face (was easy since my skin got a little oilier, didn't need it) and I have always worn little makeup. I wash my face 2x a day and apply the astringent before bed. Very easy, no big deal at all.
 
I too have broken out using the peppermint P7. And for this very reason I discontinued ~1 week ago. I did change my facial cleaning regime and that made no difference. After d/cing the P7 my face is clearing up. I am waiting on some of the orange P7 to arrive and will post updates on usage of that as well. I think the positive benefit I miss the most is how well I slept while using P7.
 
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