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Overtraining

Him1

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I'd like to give a quick opinion. A lot of people have seemed to mention overtraining lately, and a lot of replies seem to revolve around less training. IMHO, overtraining is just a catchphrase, very simple way of saying "lack of sufficient training and rest."
What I'm saying may seem oversimplified, but, it seems like too many people want to back poff the training instead of upping the calories and adding some sleep and leisure time. Lack of these are the primary cause for overtraining symptoms.
 
Some people scream over train too much. If i put my workout routines up everyone would said your overtraining. But in nine months i have put on 45 pounds LBM. Two cycle, one very weak.

Some are scared to train, i would rather over train than undertrain.
 
Him1 said:
it seems like too many people want to back poff the training instead of upping the calories and adding some sleep and leisure time. Lack of these are the primary cause for overtraining symptoms.

I completelly agree with you, as a matter of fact with the right nutrition, plenty of rest, and some good supplements it actually becomes hard to overtrain. People need to understand that training (intensivelly of course) is simply 1 part of the puzzle. :)
 
I have only over trained once in my life and it wasn't from working out too much/hard. It was from doing too much cardio. I stepped up my cardio and it burned me out.
 
unavoidable

What I think I'm trying to get at though, cubano, is that it was that your calorie deficit was too much of a strain... cardio=too many calories burned+ probably cutting diet(probably unavoidable at that time) I think I just wanted to present a different picture for those people who it seems like all they have heard is the word "overtraining" and that they took it at face value, and maybe didn't realize what it actually meant.
 
well everyone is different i can very easily overtrain and i know that dorian yates was the same way i never go over 8 sets per muscle in the gym. even on juice. just depends on the person.
 
Unless I work out each bodypart twice a week, I dont feel like I've been working out feel out of the game, but I have sleep problems and don't recoop very well.
 
yes, some people do cry overtraining too much, but my experience with overtraining left me feeling that it is nothing to fuck around with.

i didnt gain a pound for months and months and all i did was add sets, add exercises etc...i felt like shit all day long, i hated the gym, i hated my girlfriend, i was just so fed up that i wanted to kill people. i cut my workouts in half and my results have never been better.
 
so working the same body part 2x is ideal?

monday chest/bi
tuesday back/tri
wed rest
thursday shoulder
friday legs
saturday a simple workout of chest/back/shouderS ??????<---is this bad to add???
 
Like some said, everyone is different I know I get plenty of calories my sleep isn't where I'd like it to be but, not terible, I get 5000 - 6000 calories daily & usually 7hrs sleep. If I train a bodypart intensely less than 5 days in between I can not recoop fast enough, even while on a cycle. When it comes to programs there are as many ideas & beliefs as there are exercises unfortunately what may be right for one may not be right for you. You've got to play around with them all & find what works best for you. That doesn't mean try it for a week or two. Give it a few months, you should be able to tell if it's hurting or helping you at that point. I personally believe that the biggest piece of the puzzle is the diet. I have to adjust my workouts & schedule to visitation with my children but here's what my schedule looks like. Thought it might help those who are single parents. It's for two weeks because most have their kids every other weekend.


Mon- Back/Forearms (I hate chest on this day, it's national do chest day)
Tue - Chest/Calves
Wed - Off (have kids)
Thu - Legs
Fri - Shoulders/Abs (I don't do a lot of abs since I am bulking mode for the next 9 months)
Sat- Off (kids)
Sun - Off (Kids)
Mon - Bis/Tris
Tue - Back/Forearms
Wed - Off
Thu - Chest/Calves
Fri - Legs
Sat - Shoulders/Abs
Sun - Bis/Tris
 
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