overtraining on 250mg sustanon?

[leancuisine]

is it possible to be overtrained on 250mg sustanon every7 days given this routine:

day 1: upper body followed by 20 mins cardio
day 2: a.m cardio for 30 mins, p.m cardio for 45
day 3: a.m cardio for 30 mins
day 4: legs followed by 20 mins cardio
day 5: a.m cardio

and repeat cycle.

 

[genarr3]

What's with all the cardio? You training for a marathon or something?

Certainly the weight training aspect of your routine isn't overtraining, it's undertraining.

IMO no matter what you're doing you should have at least a day off a week.

 

[leancuisine]

i hear what you're saying about having 1 off day per week, but would you consider the day when you only do a.m cardio a training day?
i consider that my day off.

 

[Big Anaconda]

Lean Bro you worry too much!!!

Whats with this cardio? Are you cutting? If you are bulking then leave the cardio alone for a while.

Also have you considered adding the sus to 500 mg? remember the ester breakdown of sus, it takes a while for it to build up. Are you using any other anabolics with the sus?

Im also a beleiver in not overtraining but undereating! Eat until you are ready to burst.

 

[leancuisine]

ananconda..
i'm planning on cutting and becoming the rippest dude in hampstead bro.

about the 500mg issue..
i see great results with 250 a week and i plan on doing a bulking cycle in may so i dont wanna mess around with too much test right now.

do you think i'm overtraining?

 

[Big Anaconda]

no i dont

Wouldnt it be better to bulk now and cut for summer?

 

[leancuisine]

i'm comfortable just maintaining my mass but i'd like to shed some fat for summer.
plan on taking 2 months off after this cycle, and coming back with another 8 week cutter.

 

[ALL41]

you stated "day 1: upper body followed by 20 mins cardio" does this mean your doing chest, tri's, bi's, back, and shoulders all in 1 day?????? hummmmm.... if so, overtraining yea for the day that consists of upper body. I have never heard of anybody working out like that 2 cut or bulk bro...

 

[shiza]

wtf!!!

wtf!!
yeah, sust is great for cuttin up!!hahahahahaha
i also like your workout split, i think ronnie does the same!!!!wtf????????????
what are you doing?????
cutting in jan. but bulking in may????do you live on Antarctica??

 

[louis]

Re: wtf!!!

wtf!!
yeah, sust is great for cuttin up!!hahahahahaha
i also like your workout split, i think ronnie does the same!!!!wtf????????????
what are you doing?????
cutting in jan. but bulking in may????do you live on Antarctica??

damn bro you made me laugh my ass off..........some funny shit.. you dont need to be taking sustanon if you want to cut up....... learn about what you are taking before you take it......

 

[sergio]

is it possible to be overtrained on 250mg sustanon every7 days given this routine:

day 1: upper body followed by 20 mins cardio
day 2: a.m cardio for 30 mins, p.m cardio for 45
day 3: a.m cardio for 30 mins
day 4: legs followed by 20 mins cardio
day 5: a.m cardio

and repeat cycle.

You should split up your upper body for two days,too many body parts to train in one session...

 

[gtaman]

I believe this cycle needs you to add something... like weight training for starters!

I'm sure my gym is full of people using AS just so they can do a better job of riding the exercise bike. I'm always tripping over their skinny asses.

 

[leancuisine]

first of all thanks for the advice from the bros out there.

but for you skinny dumbfucks who wanna talk shit about my routine i got one thing to say..

don't let your girlfriend see me cause she'll dump you like a bad habit.

my upper body routine consists of 4 sets on each of these muscles:
back, chest, tri's, bi's, shoulders.
now, if you knew how to read you would understand that i'm only tryina maintain my mass. not add to it.

some of you losers out there.

 

[Big Anaconda]

Lean i must agree you have chosen a rather stranger steroid for cutting, primo and var would have been a lot better. As far as weight training is concerned try this

Day 1 Chest Tris
2 Quads
3 Off
4 Back Bi's
5 Shoulders
6 Calves and hams
7 Off

Do some cardio on the 2 off days if necessary

 

[leancuisine]

Lean i must agree you have chosen a rather stranger steroid for cutting, primo and var would have been a lot better. As far as weight training is concerned try this

Day 1 Chest Tris
2 Quads
3 Off
4 Back Bi's
5 Shoulders
6 Calves and hams
7 Off

Do some cardio on the 2 off days if necessary

Anaconda my bro...

your abovementioned routine is great and may work well for many, but how many sets on each muscle group?
to me, 4 sets to failure on each muscle on upper body day gets
me so sore for the next couple of days that i can't train if my life depended on it. that's only 20 sets total.

i'm an extremist so every rep counts. especially the last 2-3. i'm in so much pain that after completion of the last rep in any given exercise it takes me 4-5 seconds for the pain to go away.
i don't fuck around in there, and besides, my routine has done my justice so i'll stick to it.

as far as the var or primo for cutting...
i flew to turkey 2 weeks ago with certainty that i would find as much primo as i wanted (2 years ago i loaded on primo in antalya, turkey). to my surprise, schering no longer makes primo in turkey or for that matter anywhere in the world.
so, i was "forced" to load up on anything that i could get my hands on. in turkey, those options are sustanon, anadrol, virigen, and methyltest. clearly, no cutters by any means.

but i'm glad i got the sustanon because overall i'd say it does a better job sparing muscle on a cutting cycle than any other gear.
the only problem that some may have with my philosophy is the water bloat. but i'm not competing and could care less about the extra water bloat that sustanon will get you over say primo, or anavar, winstrol or eq.
and if and when i get bloated to my dislike i got a bunch of 40mg lasix laying around. a half a pill a day for 2-3 days sholuld get rid of most bloat.

once again, remember that i'm comfotable with the muscle that i have and at this stage have no intention of adding more muscle. just would like to shed about 10-15 pounds of fat which with clen,t3,eca(that i obviously alternate) is a very attainable and reasonable goal.

how do you tolerate all these boneheads big ana?

 

[KillerLoop]

Leancuisine - If the routine works for you then just stick with it. Everyone is different. As long as yo see the results you want and enjoy oyur training then who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks.

As far as Sust goes I'm cutting on 500mgs week right now. Who says you cant cut on test? WTF!! You can cut on any roid!! It's the diet that counts. AAS are just for muscle retention.

I'm using Femara to keep the water off from the test but you're using 250mgs so wont get much water there at all anyway, especially with low carbs and cardio.

Test is good and cheap to use for cutting.

Lean mate, just hang out more on the MT board

 

[leancuisine]

Leancuisine - If the routine works for you then just stick with it. Everyone is different. As long as yo see the results you want and enjoy oyur training then who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks.

As far as Sust goes I'm cutting on 500mgs week right now. Who says you cant cut on test? WTF!! You can cut on any roid!! It's the diet that counts. AAS are just for muscle retention.

I'm using Femara to keep the water off from the test but you're using 250mgs so wont get much water there at all anyway, especially with low carbs and cardio.

Test is good and cheap to use for cutting.

Lean mate, just hang out more on the MT board

killerloop...
thanks for the life bro.
some of these idiots can really piss me off sometimes with their nonsense comments.
you and big anaconda both agree on 500mg of susta a week, so i think i'm gonna meet you half way and stick 250 every 5 days in stead of every 7.

thanks again brother.

 

[KillerLoop]

You ever think of adding Nolva to that bro? at 10mgs ED it would only cost you about £20 to cycle for 60 days. Good to keep the water off and other estrogen related sides.

 

[leancuisine]

while in turkey, my stupid ass didn't pick any nolva up as i thought it was overpriced. but at only 250mg every 5 days, do you really think i need nolva?

 

[KillerLoop]

Nah not really bro, see how you go. I agree Nolva is expensive in Greece, it's about the same price here, lol. Proviron on the other hand is cheap as candy!! You should have picked some up.

 

[leancuisine]

i did pick up some clomid though.
paid like 4 pounds for 10 tabs, 50mg each.
i cant believe you pick up sustanon for 3 pounds a pop!!!
i paid 2 pounds a pop in turkey. and spent 150 pounds on airfare!

 

[Big Engineer]

Re: wtf!!!

wtf!!
yeah, sust is great for cuttin up!!hahahahahaha
i also like your workout split, i think ronnie does the same!!!!wtf????????????
what are you doing?????
cutting in jan. but bulking in may????do you live on Antarctica??

So you think that sust is a bulking drug and winny a cutting drug?? you need a lot to learn..

 

[Johnny Cut]

well test is OK for cutting, not the best, it does make u retain water like a mutha, however, diet plays an enormous role in this, if u keep your test doses low and use l-dex i have found great results in lean mass....hook it up

 

[leancuisine]

dialtone..

not a bad routine, but that means working the each muscle once every 7 days. i like to hit em up as soon as they recover from their usual post workout soreness which takes my body about 3 days and thus my routine.

but....
the question is: am i overtraining?

i've tried differnt routines and feel like mine should yield the fastest fast loss and MAY even add very very little muscle.

the only change i've made is instead of taking 250mg every 7 days i will take it every 5 days. many recommended 500mg every 7 days but i think that may be just a little too much.

anyhow, i'm 5 days into my 8 week cutting cycle and will keep you posted.

thanks for everything bros

 

[shifti]

leancuisine:

Don't listen to anyone who says your undertraining because they are probably overtraining themselves and can't grow unless they are on a lot of juice . I only do 3-4 sets per bodypart once a week with a 3-day split and ive been growing like a weed ever since i started on low volume. I take small amounts of juice too, my next cycle will only be 300mg of enanthate a week. All these peeps who think you have to do 9-12 sets a body part every workout, and most of them are overtraining. Good luck.

 

[emptywallet]

Lean. I'd stick with hitting one muscle group a week. I used to do what you did, smacking everything twice, maybe three times a week, or only waiting 2 or three days for a muscle to recover. BUT, now that I've switched to once a week. The difference is night and day. I'm definetily (sp) seeing ALOT better results both when trying to shred up, and when putting on mass. Even though a muscle is not still sore, does NOT mean that it is fully recovered. Sometimes my shoulders or bi's arent sore after a workout, does this mean they didnt get blasted? NO. They still need a good chance to recover, and then grow.

 

[leancuisine]

emptywallet,

good point about the soreness.
gonna sleep on that one.