Overheard this at local BB show.

[bonacris]

Your still considered natural until you start going over 1G of combined anabolics. Most people agreed at the show. Is this what BB has become

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[Nelson Montana]

Meaningless. Natural is natural, not an arbitrary dosage.

And if that's what most guys take, that's fine. I've never done a gram of gear a week in my life.

Then again, most stuff is UG and that's all under-dosed anyway so nobody even knows exactly how much they're really taking.

 

[RickRock13]

That answer doesn't surprise me, considering how far everyone continues to push the envelope on doses these days

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Bodybuilding is going to heck with the way abuse is being handled. These guys just don't know boundaries.

 

[bonacris]

Physiques are greeting uglier and uglier. Even at local shows.. does nobody know how to get in condition anymore
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[stevesmi]

at that level I agree. and to ice the cake if you aren't taking slin/hgh then you are natural too

but unless you are at that level it doesn't apply to you. if a 20 year old took 900mg and went around claiming he was natural what would we think?

 

[ibleedoranbla]

I've only done 1 sarms cycle, does that still make me natural?

 

[bonacris]

Well people say creatine is natural because it's found in the the body anyway but so is testosterone. Where do you draw the line anymore

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[RickRock13]

Well people say creatine is natural because it's found in the the body anyway but so is testosterone. Where do you draw the line anymore

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Yeh, the boundaries depend on who you ask. Most natural organizations won't even allow those on doctor prescribed TRT to compete in their tested events, even though they would pass the test as long as their dose kept them in normal range.