over a gram?

[UCQUALITY]

well im on my 2nd cycle. the first wasnt bad but not what i expected.(deca/test). so here is what im doing and let me know what you think. im 6' 240 with give or take 12-15% body fat. my diet is pretty clean.

deca 400 1cc per week

sus 250 2cc per week

eq 500 1cc per week

and kick start it with OT. weeks 1-6 at 40 a day

weeks 4-5 ill start a-dex

i have nolva and a-dex on hand. im thinking a 16 week cycle. any suggestions or info would help.

 

[sparetire]

Looks great to me!!! Just watch for any excess water retention maybe around week 5-6 instead of 4-5. If it get's bad, run a-dex 1mg ed, other than that, run it e0d at 1. If you run a-dex throughout your cycle, you shouldn't need to run nolva unless your nips get out of control and your start to feel bumps or you get puffy there. good luck and may the power of cl be with you my friend

 

[dullboy]

you a big boy.

no problem handing that volume of junk.


you should keep a weekly journal here with pics and let us see the results.

 

[Makavelli]

I would bump the test to 750 mgs/wk. Besides that it looks good.

 

[used2juice]

I think that looks awesome, I too would bump the test to 750...hell, I'd bump it to a gram. But if you think you'll do fine at 500, then stick with it.

 

[LVTitan]

i'd leave the test at 500 bro, since you're gonna be running half a gram of eq also you should be fine, especially with only 400mg/deca....
just remember you CAN get gyno from deca, and the ancillaries you've listed will only work against the test based gear you are running. but you already knew that i'm sure and you've run deca in the past so just keep it in mind.
other than that it looks solid bro. i love the combo of deca/eq but everyone here already knows that.

 

[UCQUALITY]

thanks fellas, ill keep you posted on progress

 

[UCQUALITY]

how long on the pct?

 

[bigtravis]

for a 16 week run. 8 weeks.

 

[big_boy_1]

Looks fine to me
most is deca/eq so its not as harsh as 1g test, as i tought while reading the thread subject.

Ill use sus in the beginning, and then switch to enantahte, or if you can kickstart with propionate, better even.

 

[zips92]

What is the benefit/purpose of starting a-dex at weeks 4-5 instead of earlier......no aromatization until week 4?

 

[jmt24]

the only thing id change is droppin the tbol to 4 weeks and uppin it to 50mg ed

 

[UCQUALITY]

well heres the deal. the reason im concerned with the pct is, on my last cycle.. i might have gotten some bum gear or the pct was wrong. i crashed. i didnt get/keep any gains and my sex drive went down. so im really wanting to get this right. i dont have any hcg. i have nolva and a-dex. what week and how much should i start to take. im not wanting to go through what i did last cycle. plus its an exspensive mistake! thanks for your help.

 

[UCQUALITY]

well heres the deal. the reason im concerned with the pct is, on my last cycle.. i might have gotten some bum gear or the pct was wrong. i crashed. i didnt get/keep any gains and my sex drive went down. so im really wanting to get this right. i dont have any hcg. i have nolva and a-dex. what week and how much should i start to take. im not wanting to go through what i did last cycle. plus its an exspensive mistake! thanks for your help.

i know the sus and deca stay in my system the longest (being 3 weeks), what i need feedback on is what dosage of a-dex and nolva while on and off. i know some people take adex from the very first day and some wait. im looking for a ruff outline of what to do. thanks

 

[ryan04]

If you don't have access to HCG nolva and clomid would be fine. I just finished up a 16 wk cycle a couple monthes ago that was 750 mgs sust and 400 mgs eq. After everything cleared out I ran clomid for 3 wks at 100 mgs per day and nolva for 5 wks at 40 mgs a day. Kept a good portion of my gains.

 

[UCQUALITY]

arent nolva and clomid about the same?

 

[LVTitan]

arent nolva and clomid about the same?

yeah pretty much, i dont use clomid at all anymore.. nolva is more effective, at a lower dose, without all the side effects of clomid..
just do hcg/nolva... if you can use clomid without the sides, i'd only run it first few weeks of pct though

 

[Workout King]

Yes and no. they are both SERMs(selective estrogen replacement molecules, i believe is what it stands for) and mimic the presence of estrogen in your body, but they will affect you in different ways. Some people swear by clomid and some swear by nolva, tho it seems that the general trend is more and more are swaying to nolva only... I personally ran both for pct, and will continue to run both, from many many reports clomid will get you up and going a lot faster than nolva will, possibly due to the larger amounts taken, but still its quicker. But nolva seems to help even more over an extended period of time, and isn't gonna make you all moody like clomid might.

 

[djsf]

You might want to add a low dose of winstrol to block progresterone gyno, especially if you notice any nipple soreness. People I have talked to have seen effectiveness with only 30-50mg winstrol a day.