ouch prop hurts

[meandthedog85]

Hi Everyone,

not been on this forum for probably 2 years and got some great advice then so im hoping i can get some now, I have started a post earlier but i have seen that i didnt include enough detail

so here goes

My first cycle was when i was training for an army selection course, when i was advised by the forum to go for test prop (as the test was weeks away) 400mg pw spaced over EOD with whinny.

I seemed to get good results from the whinny and possibly the test but the major problem I had was prop pains. I stuck with it to see if my muscles would get used to it but to no avail.

I have lost a sufficient amount of weight to now starting to look at a good second cycle. so id like some advice on a second cycle bearing in mind the aforementioned paragraph about the prop pains. I would also like some advice on the best pct for whatever cycles are recommended.

26 years old
6'2
96kgs
some body fat (not at all excessive)


morn
12 oz skimmed milk
1/2 cup porridge
1 scoop whey

morn 2
4 whole eggs boiled and snacked on over a couple of hrs
2 potatoes (jacket, small amount of olive oil)
16oz fresh fruit juice

afternoon
whole chicken breast with wholemeal bread
fish oil
tumbler of water

afternoon 2
6 oz chicken breast
portion of baked beans (1 can)
water
(sometimes a bad boy and have coffee)

early evening
fish (250g tuna)
12 oz skimmed milk

evening
water
1 scoop whey

I think my diet is ok, more the juice i cant get my head round, i seemed to get good results from the prop and whinny but the prop pains were unbearable, i even stuck with it to see if they reduced in time but no joy. Thinking along the lines of test enan because of the longer esther and less pain???


I dont want to gain masses of weight in a week, just want lean mass and not too much excess water etc etc

Any advice guys?

 

[meandthedog85]

Think i posted twice

 

[Tux]

Eat more, and get better quality prop if you want to run it again. I make my own test prop, 150mg/ml and it's totally painless. Most "brand name" test prop contains too much BA to counteract less than sterile conditions during production, and excess BA causes lots of pain. Just find a brand that doesn't hurt, there are plenty of them out there! If you are wanting to gain only moderate mass and little water, you can still use a longer ester like enanthate or cypionate, but make sure to take an AI with it and keep the dosage reasonable. For your goals, though, I'd personally still use a shorter cycle of something like test prop and winny or anavar... maybe tbol. All 3 are good orals that won't cause lots of bloat but give solid, moderate, keepable gains.