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Ordering my first cycle

youngguns

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Hey, I'm about to order my first cycle, 4 bottles of 250mg/ml Test E (750mgs /week / 12 weeks) I'm just wondering what else I should buy for pct, and dosages for pct. Thanks!
 
pretty strong first cycle dude. should be good though. i'd get some aifm or aromasin or arimidex.

pct
clomid hcg nolva
 
jagerbombme said:
pretty strong first cycle dude. should be good though. i'd get some aifm or aromasin or arimidex.

pct
clomid hcg nolva
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I was going to do a gram, but thought that my NEXT cycle would have to be pretty strong to grow. What doses should I take these at?
 
Maybe Read the PCT forum and possibly do some more research before you start a cycle.

As of right now I seriously doubt you have researched enough.

A gram a week for you first cycle?
 
jeepboi said:
Maybe Read the PCT forum and possibly do some more research before you start a cycle.

As of right now I seriously doubt you have researched enough.

A gram a week for you first cycle?
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SOOO many good bros have suggested it, Ulter did, and others...
 
Solid first cycle bro! Clomid will be fine for your PCT. I'd also have Nolvadex on hand just in case. Good luck and keep us posted.

M18
 
hcg needs to be done for the three weeks prior to clomid in my opinion,using it while on clomid isnt very effective and you might end up with some nice titties that way, id also keep nolva on hand incase your gyno prone
 
theoak01 said:
hcg needs to be done for the three weeks prior to clomid in my opinion,using it while on clomid isnt very effective and you might end up with some nice titties that way, id also keep nolva on hand incase your gyno prone
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Harleymarleybone said:
Damn, I like your new avatar, Jagermeister. Is that your girlfriend? :-)
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it's my wife. :)

i would run between 250-500mg of test per week bro.

500 and your gonna blow the fuck up.
 
i don't know why you'd end up with titties because of hcg and clomid together. clomid acts as an antiestro at certain receptors to do with the hpta. hcg can give you gyno period, run an ai with the hcg

if running test E here's what i'd do

Test Enanthate 500mg ew 1-12
aifm or some ai throughout cycle, once you decide figure out the dose

pct

HCG starting 13.5 weeks out 500iu ED for 10-15 days
Clomid starting at week 14-18 OR 14-20 50mg ED (you can do a pyramind down) read
aifm or nolva or another AI.


make sure your using an AI from start to finish with this cycle, when you stop taking the test after week 12 is when estro can get really outta control. i would utilize aifm from start to finish. OR aromasin or adex from start until done with HCG, not really clear here and then pick up with Nolva in place. I might be wrong here, the easiest would be to run aifm from weeks 1-18 or 1-20 however long you run out the clomid, in the last 5 weeks back off of the aifm to one pump per day or even 1 every other day.
 
jagerbombme said:
i don't know why you'd end up with titties because of hcg and clomid together. clomid acts as an antiestro at certain receptors to do with the hpta. hcg can give you gyno period, run an ai with the hcg

if running test E here's what i'd do

Test Enanthate 500mg ew 1-12
aifm or some ai throughout cycle, once you decide figure out the dose

pct

HCG starting 13.5 weeks out 500iu ED for 10-15 days
Clomid starting at week 14-18 OR 14-20 50mg ED (you can do a pyramind down) read
aifm or nolva or another AI.


make sure your using an AI from start to finish with this cycle, when you stop taking the test after week 12 is when estro can get really outta control. i would utilize aifm from start to finish. OR aromasin or adex from start until done with HCG, not really clear here and then pick up with Nolva in place. I might be wrong here, the easiest would be to run aifm from weeks 1-18 or 1-20 however long you run out the clomid, in the last 5 weeks back off of the aifm to one pump per day or even 1 every other day.
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What do you think about Ulter saying 1 gram?, at one point I was thinking 1 gram a week and + Deca!
 
youngguns said:
Hey, I'm about to order my first cycle, 4 bottles of 250mg/ml Test E (750mgs /week / 12 weeks) I'm just wondering what else I should buy for pct, and dosages for pct. Thanks!
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pct is just as important as the cycle itself, it is part of the cycle. it should not be an afterthought and ordered after start of cycle, it should be had before cycle is even started.

good luck to you on your cycle
 
No way you need a gram to grow imo..at 220 pounds I put on 30 pounds with a simple sus/deca cycle of 400mg per week. I have run quite a few cycles and never needed to go over 600mgs with anything.

PCT..varies with everyone. I have done clomid at 150ed a week 100ed weeek 50ed a week 3 weeks after last shot. Keep reading.
 
Everyone's body is a lil different, some people are prone to gyno some are not I'm not. 3 weeks after last shot I run clomid for about 3 or 4 weeks and it works out.........

Like I said everyone is different so its all in how your body works for you, don't forget diet is 80% of it so make sure you are eating well........
 
youngguns said:
What do you think about Ulter saying 1 gram?, at one point I was thinking 1 gram a week and + Deca!
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well everyone has an opinion based on what they've read and how their personal body has responded. 500mg from my lab was very fucking intense, and on my first cycle i had alittle anxiety about what i'm gonna feel, what's it gonna do to me, when 99percent of people say 250-500 and if i was doing 1000, i would worried myself to death. but anyways, some people cannot handle testosterone, they don't like it, it gives them anxiety, prostate issues, shuts them down, gives them gyno. that's a whole host of issues bro you could possibly deal with, if you start out at 1000mg and start to get these issues, dude, your gonna have alotta shit flowing in you for a while, plus, i don't know if anything less than that will do much for you after running that much, as far as a cycle.

if i were you maybe fucking add some dbol in there also. it's testosterone in a sense and can discontinue that if see issues. hell, dbol or tbol for that matter. you can run the shit at the beginning or at the end for synergistic effects. but running it at the beginning you'd be able to feel really only the dbol or tbol and know if it's gonna give you negatives. and then when the test kicks in and you stop the orals, you'll know what that's gonna do to you. running more than this amount of compounds you won't know what's doing what to you and then you don't know where to start with your second cycle.

or, if daring, and i wasn't, best cycle you could run is test, deca, dbol. but you seem like you want to keep it simple and have a good cycle. i wouldn't do that. my brother did, i wouldn't do it though after i talked to alot of people on here.
 
Once you're a zitty, greasy mess with your hair clogging up the drain, you'll realize that 750 was too much for your first cycle. Might get some nice titties though:p
 
I know some people say to do so, and that is their opinion, but I would stick to 500mg per week first cycle, just to see how you are going to react. You do not know if you are gyno prone, if you are going to get acne, etc.
 
dsh89 said:
I know some people say to do so, and that is their opinion, but I would stick to 500mg per week first cycle, just to see how you are going to react. You do not know if you are gyno prone, if you are going to get acne, etc.
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If I do go 500 per week, should I throw in something else?, to get the full benefit out of my firts cycle?
 
If you're going to do it... and I still think you should give it another year or so at least of natty training bro...

Throw in some dbol in for the first 4-6 weeks, while you're waiting for the Test E to kick in.
 
I'm going to start it in 4 months... I've been 185-190 for a few months now, I'm getting stronger and my stretch marks are growing, so I'm not sure whats really going on.
 
don't cycle until you've plateuad??? hehe, if you are getting stronger then keep going without them, otherwise you're wasting it on gains that can be made naturally, get where you can get naturally and then hit the shit and then you'll be way further ahead than if you do it now.
 
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