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Ordering Jino from China....
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satchboogie
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if you order them from china, just make sure your sources offers a 100% guarantee or money back in case they get seized.
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Really? That pretty fucking good!roy1crna said:
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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satchboogie said:
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I`m pretty sure your source was pissedalltraps said:
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Mr.X
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I know at least of 10 people from the boards that have been busted for getting GH from china, that being said - 7 were in states where there were specific laws about it (if I remember correctly). I'd stick to domestic...no hassle and Less! risk.
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Mr.X said:
GH isn't a controlled substance in most of the united states. You can't be busted for it unless your state has a law making it a controlled substance, but most do not.
Customs can confiscate it because it isn't FDA approved, but the majority of folks have no problems at all.
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kbrkbr said:
Look, I had a mod on my board about 9 month ago go down for GH, whether it was legal or not for the LE to charge him is a different story - the fact of the matter is that he was charged and had to PAY FOR A LAWYER TO DEFEND HIMSELF. Whether he was guilty or not, I wont go into that since I'm no judge and didn't make any rulings on the case personally, but I'll tell you this much, his "GH import" cost him a LOT of money and time and, if he didn't hire the good lawyers, possible jail time.
The problem was that once they took his GH, they raided his house and found other products. I'm NOT saying what they did was right or legal, but they DID do it, so NEVER EVER belive you're above the law when importing ANY type of drugs...whether it's ambien or GH, it's still up to LE to decide what to do with it.
Remember, LE makes up BS excuses to commit illegal searches and siezures ALL the time, so don't ever think they are within the bounds of the law - just look at the Patriot act.
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poantrex said:
Prescription drugs are NOT legal to import without (guess what) a prescription from the DOCTOR.
P.S. why is this even an issue? just stick to domestic and you'll be fine
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Mr.X said:
You know, they never check that shit. Customs has fucking millions of parcels to go through every day, and they aren't gonna call everyone to verify that a script exists. Basically, if its non controlled its gonna go through. Private carriers like UPS and FDX are a different story, but basically....customs isn't going to stop any fucking fda approved non-controlled med, period.
GH is included in that if its FDA approved. Unfortunately, Jintropin is not fda approved and will raise eyebrows if caught, but most of the time it isn't. It is exceedingly easy to import jintropin into the US.
Mr.X said:
Huh? Unless he's in a state where GH is controlled, he should hire a lawyer and sue the fuck out of them. There are NO GROUNDS for them to charge him with anything unless he's in one of the few states where GH is controlled.
Possessing a non-controlled med without a script is a misdemeanor....are they going to bother with that? Not likely.
Mr.X said:
Since your friend was a mod on your board, I'm sure he must have shared his arrest experience with members of the board, if only just to warn them.
Could you please post a link to this thread? If you don't have the time, just list the board and his username and I'll look it up myself. That's a thread I'd love to read.
Thanks much.
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poantrex said:
Yes they DID bother with that, so quit making this a big issue. If you want to belive that it's never going to happen, keep believing it, the facts are facts.
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kbrkbr said:
quit being a smart ass, he went down and was fired as a mod from my board for it, I don't tolerate any of that - so there is no thread, he was banned. Next time, read my post again, I never said that the "mod" was my friend; all that was mentioned is that he was a mod on my board.
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poantrex said:
Even if it goes through USPS it can STILL opened, anything imported into the country without an IMPORT VISA (from CHINA) can be opened. Usually boxes with little bottles and ICE packs are a GOOD choice!
Yes, people DO get busted for GH all the time. It's not even an argument, the true question is to enlighten our members about the possible risks of importing GH and NOT to make it sound like it's a walk in the park like some people have done!
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I never said USPS packs are never opened. What I said was that they aren't going to bother calling a million people and ask them to fax them a prescription to prove it was prescribed to them! That doesn't happen. GH made by an american manufacturer will make through customs, easily....like I said the problem with Jintropin is that it is not FDA approved, but it is still NOT CONTROLLED.
A "bust" can only happen in states where GH is a controlled substance. I don't recall how many states there are, but there are few. Very few.
Otherwise, it is only a misdemeanor. And you mean to tell me someone is going to be put in jail for 5 years for a misdemeanor? Come on. A slap on the wrist, maybe a small fine at most....but nobody is gonna face jail time. If your mod buddy was "busted" and imprisoned for GH in a state that doesn't classify HGH as a controlled substance, he was wrongly treated and has the right to sue the fuck out of them.
Two facts.
1) HGH is controlled in most states, 30 out of 50.
2) Possesion of an unapproved drug in some states is actually a felony, not a slap on the wrist.
I did some searching on our legal forum and you'll find posts from members that actually have law degrees stating these facts.
Here's one:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336928&highlight=unapproved
1) HGH is controlled in most states, 30 out of 50.
2) Possesion of an unapproved drug in some states is actually a felony, not a slap on the wrist.
I did some searching on our legal forum and you'll find posts from members that actually have law degrees stating these facts.
Here's one:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336928&highlight=unapproved
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poantrex said:
quit beaing a dead point into the ground, go read LEGAL muscle
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poantrex said:
The problem is that a MILLION people DO NOT order GH from china sources. The will take you to jail and GH IS controlled. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean your right
Wrong, read Legal Muscle and do more research. How about if you're in that state? hmmm....
Misdemeanor is still a crime...how about this, YOU import GH and take the risk, and the people that are smart and educated on this forum will sit back and spend 15-20% more and buy it domestic. Story over.....next time do your research before making blanket statements.
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THAT would be my advice too
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kbrkbr said:
Last update: March 27, 2004 at 12:36 AM
Man charged with selling growth hormone
Paul Gustafson, Star Tribune
March 27, 2004 BODY0327
A St. Paul man alleged to have sold an illegally obtained human growth hormone and a homemade version of it to body builders was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury in Iowa.
Basil Han, 29, is accused of buying the human growth hormone hGH from two Iowa men who obtained it illegally from China, according to court documents.
When the Iowa men lost their Chinese sources of hGH, one told authorities, they created their own version, placed it in false packaging and sold much of it to Han for resale.
When Han was arrested March 18 in Iowa, he was in the process of buying the men's counterfeit hGH business and moving supplies and equipment for making the hormone to St. Paul, authorities allege.
By then, however, one of the Iowa men already was cooperating with federal authorities.
As a result, federal agents tape-recorded Han on March 14 as he agreed to buy the men's business for $15,000. Later that day, the agents watched Han as he allegedly moved equipment for the illegal drug business into an apartment in the 1100 block of Ashland Av. in St. Paul, according to a search warrant filed Friday. Han was indicted on one count of possessing human growth hormone with intent to distribute it for unauthorized purposes and on one count of conspiracy.
His scheduled hearing Friday in U.S. District Court in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, was postponed. His attorney, John Lane, of Cedar Rapids, could not be reached for comment.
A man identified as B.J. Stevens told federal authorities that he and Nick Hanson of Mason City, Iowa, schemed to import hGH illegally from China beginning in 2000, according to court documents.
They did so by using Web sites to pose as representatives of legitimate biotechnology companies that needed hGH for neuromuscular research.
The hGH then was fraudulently repackaged as an approved human growth hormone product called Serostim and sold to body builders and others, the indictment alleges.
The Federal Drug Administration has not approved any foreign-manufactured hGH for use in the United States. But Serostim, a recombinant hGH product produced by Serono Inc., of Massachusetts, has been approved to prevent AIDS wasting.
However, the drug, which helps develop muscle mass, has become widely available on the black market because, unlike other steroids, it isn't detected in drug testing used by sports groups.
A Serono spokeswoman declined to comment on the scope of the drug's misuse, but she said there have been similar cases
When the Iowa men lost their Chinese sources of hGH in September 2001, they began making their own counterfeit version from ingredients bought over the Internet, Stevens told authorities.
They also sold a substance called Somaject, which they made themselves, by making it appear to be a human growth hormone product made by a legitimate German firm, according to the indictment against Han.
Han allegedly bought 2,500 kits of hGH from the Iowa men between May 2001 and December 2003, then sold it to others. Much of it was the counterfeit substance the Iowa men made themselves, Stevens told authorities.
Paul Gustafson is at [email protected].
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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why not just buy domestic GH or some IGF? no customs , it's safe/cold pack, no worries....IMO a much better way to go
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