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mountain muscle
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I am curious about this as well. I got some valium from Australia in 8 days no problem, actually shipped from Pakistan. Doc thinks I am "High Strung and that is why 3 hours sleep is a damn good night. Eviction email me bro.
wnt2bBeast
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just recently went intl without any hang ups!!!
I have ordered Int many times. I have had everything that you can think of happen. When I lived on the eastcoast, never had a problem. On the west one now, and have had a few siesures. Broke a good sources "not one seisure" record! lol .. think he was a little pissed.
I have had an envelope of papervar seized of all things. It wa under 30 grams so they couldnt open it. THey requested my permission, but I never let them. Said it looked suspicious. THen this year I had hcg seized, an a letter from health Canada came telling me that i couldnt import it without a script .. then they gave me a list of places where I could get the script! hahaha. Gotta love Canada ... but hate our fuckin customs. Many Int. sources have told me that our customs are among the tightest in the world. If you are in the US you are laughing. You guys get about 50 times the volume of mail we get so better odds of not getting shit opened with so much mail going through. It all depends on your source bro. If they are good they will stand behind their shipping techniques and have a full resend policy. If they dont have this policy, or seisure insurance or anything, then they are not as confident.
My first cycle when I was young and naive came from Europe. Had 60 primos seized (not from the golden boy ... different source at the time), so he re-sent them free. Ran them all, found out a week later it was test prop in my primo amps. Joy! That is why I will only buy that shit from 1 man and 1 man alone. You live you learn bro. hahaha. I just recieved some Cabaser the other day right to my mailbox no problems. Domestic is safer, but you can get some wicked deals shopping on the int market.
Cheers bro,
Mavy
I have had an envelope of papervar seized of all things. It wa under 30 grams so they couldnt open it. THey requested my permission, but I never let them. Said it looked suspicious. THen this year I had hcg seized, an a letter from health Canada came telling me that i couldnt import it without a script .. then they gave me a list of places where I could get the script! hahaha. Gotta love Canada ... but hate our fuckin customs. Many Int. sources have told me that our customs are among the tightest in the world. If you are in the US you are laughing. You guys get about 50 times the volume of mail we get so better odds of not getting shit opened with so much mail going through. It all depends on your source bro. If they are good they will stand behind their shipping techniques and have a full resend policy. If they dont have this policy, or seisure insurance or anything, then they are not as confident.
My first cycle when I was young and naive came from Europe. Had 60 primos seized (not from the golden boy ... different source at the time), so he re-sent them free. Ran them all, found out a week later it was test prop in my primo amps. Joy! That is why I will only buy that shit from 1 man and 1 man alone. You live you learn bro. hahaha. I just recieved some Cabaser the other day right to my mailbox no problems. Domestic is safer, but you can get some wicked deals shopping on the int market.
Cheers bro,
Mavy
wnt2bBeast
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im sure the golden boy appreciates your vote of confidence.. lolMavy said:
Well he deserves it! Truley a golden boy.
For my situation, well ... nothing like shooting test prop twice a week! lol. thinking its primo! lol. Fuck I was pissed. Those imfamous white ringed primos that were flaoting around a year ago. The weird thing is that I still did great on the cycle hahaha.
I wouldnt suggest ordering Int if you are in a rush, incase you get seized, can really slow shit down. What a good source told me is that sometimes customs dont even send a seisure letter out. They are catching on that that basically means a free a re-send. Not sending a letter causes a bad relationsip between you and your source. Just make sure you and your source are clear on seisures just incase, and you will be fine bro.
For my situation, well ... nothing like shooting test prop twice a week! lol. thinking its primo! lol. Fuck I was pissed. Those imfamous white ringed primos that were flaoting around a year ago. The weird thing is that I still did great on the cycle hahaha.
I wouldnt suggest ordering Int if you are in a rush, incase you get seized, can really slow shit down. What a good source told me is that sometimes customs dont even send a seisure letter out. They are catching on that that basically means a free a re-send. Not sending a letter causes a bad relationsip between you and your source. Just make sure you and your source are clear on seisures just incase, and you will be fine bro.
wnt2bBeast
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its no joke getting bunk gear or something other than what you intend to put in your bod..but at least ytou made the best of it with no hang ups!!..good points as well about sources too!!!Mavy said:
I've never had a problem. Depends on your source though, if they send you a pack that says "FRAGILE CONTAINS STEROIDS" on the box you might have problems....but if they pack it well you shouldn't have many issues.
This of course is different for the west coast (usa), which is hard to get stuff through from what I hear.
This of course is different for the west coast (usa), which is hard to get stuff through from what I hear.
Slyder190
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I have yet to order domestic straight out. I know a couple guys, but just haven't order through them yet. I have receveived packages from China, UK, Poland and the Czheck Republc (spelling?). Mostly from the UK and Peru, although thsat person has things ent to and from person to person from all over the world. I've had this person send some products domestically with no problems, yet I've never had any problems with international orders either. I think the better your source is at packaging goods, the better off you are. With poor packaging, of course the seizure rate may go up. Bottom line, Domestic is safer, but as long as your source is solid in all aspects, INT is fine as well. Domestic should be quicker though.
I always stick with domestic...
I dont like having to sneak things through customs...Too risky for me
I dont like having to sneak things through customs...Too risky for me
danieledanny
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please tell me what mean domestic payment?? and who can tell me some sure adress for buy steroads?
danieledanny said:
Sorry bro, you can't ask those questions openly, its an invite for scammers to take you money, not to mention against the rules.
Domestic all the way for me. And if I want mex stuff like QV or Syd, my vet guy sends a 'mule' across the border to ship it domestic.
danieledanny said:
I just got like 120 amps in 6 packages international. I have used domestic in the past. I could not resist the price of international. I must confess that I was on edge until the packages arrived.
I hate wondering if the packages are coming or if I am going to get a visit.
My packages were well wrapped and nothing broke and leaked.
If you got the money you can't beat the speed of Domestic. If you got a good domestic supplier.
I think that the next order is going to be domestic even though more expensive. Peace of Mind
I hate wondering if the packages are coming or if I am going to get a visit.
My packages were well wrapped and nothing broke and leaked.
If you got the money you can't beat the speed of Domestic. If you got a good domestic supplier.
I think that the next order is going to be domestic even though more expensive. Peace of Mind
VeteranNewbie88
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I have ordered Int quite a bit in the past...but had a big scare a couple yrs ago...actually got out of the game for the last couple yrs..so I actually contacted my guy from a couple yrs back who is AWESOME...I mean back then he was always courteous, polite, understanding ..and cautious...and better yet...he ships domestic now....so I order 50 amps and 11 10cc bottles ....his domestic remailer shipped them with one..yes ONE VERY thin layer of saran wrap around the amps...and ONE very small thin layer of bubble wrap and that was it..everything was loose..inside a box..not in an envelope AND a box..just a box..so the package arrives with one entire end of the box saturated with oil...the end of the box was actually discolored, it leaked through so bad...I have NO idea how USPS didnt open it.for they are allowed to open any packs that leak to check for hazardous materials..3 amps had broken..6 ccs of oil...I contacted my source..who I have ALWAYs loved..and respected..and politely told him what happened and how dangerous it was to have such a large package shipped that way...he responded with ....WhaT? Only 3 amps broke?? Thats not bad at all...I've never had any problems in the past..never had any complaints from anyone else..blah blah...I was so surprised by his total lack of caring....I contacted him again..POLITELY again explaining how its not the borken amps I was worried about..it was the poor packaging allowing the leakage...he never responded..so it seems that some guys attitudes can change over a couple yrs I guess..its really too bad..DO NOT ask who this source is..cause I will NOT release his name to anyone...However,,whats your opinion? Did I overreact or does my source (who is WELL-KNOWN and usually AWESOME) need an attitude change? Whats your opinions...
VeteranNewbie88 said:
Packaging is everything. I had a domestic that once sent stuff in a cardboard envelope with no padding. Nothing broke, but I seriously doubted his capabilities.
If they flake on something as important as packing, then you got to wonder how many other mistakes they make. That puts you and him at risk.
mookie
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I had var sent from china twice with no problems europe 3 times with no problems same source for all 3 but had a bad experience last time from mexico received my var but my eq was in customs for 3 months wrote it off as a lost and one day received it had to sign for it signed thinking it was something I ordered from ebay it was the eq thought I was going to jail but I got lucky funny thing is on the package said FDA did not open when the package was clearly opened. Will stick with domestic for now on.eviction said:
VeteranNewbie88 said:
Unfortunately some large sources with many remailers can not be on top of HOW WELL their domestic supply line may run...
I had a pack once with NINE broken amps....
But they were packaged SO tightly that NONE of the oil leaked out...
I still dont know HOW the amps actually broke
, but nine of them were 
=Viking= said:I had a pack once with NINE broken amps....
But they were packaged SO tightly that NONE of the oil leaked out...
I still dont know HOW the amps actually broke
Is that your loss?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it was a pack I received...
I contacted him, but the packaging was tight...I think they were broken WHILE packaging them...I mean they were layered VERY well...NO WAY the PO did it
The Terminator said:
Yes, it was a pack I received...
I contacted him, but the packaging was tight...I think they were broken WHILE packaging them...I mean they were layered VERY well...NO WAY the PO did it
[/QUOTE]I had 6 packages that contained a box with 20 amps. The boxes each had some cotton on the top but all the amps were touching, and not one broke. (From Poland)
I think you are right about it breaking when packing. Depending on the price of the amps it would be nice to have them resent. It wasn't like you broke them openning the packs.
I was out about $70 total, but that was fine...
I'm looking into mail order, but have many doubts and fears. Hope this message isn't against the rules. What are some issues i need to know and be aware of? What are my risks? What is the best way of finding a good source as I am fucking lost!! How do you know you have a good safe source?
VeteranNewbie88
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The Terminator said:Unfortunately some large sources with many remailers can not be on top of HOW WELL their domestic supply line may run...
I had a pack once with NINE broken amps....
But they were packaged SO tightly that NONE of the oil leaked out...
I still dont know HOW the amps actually broke
I understand this...but what really disappointed me was my guy's attitude...and how he acted like my package with one end SOAKED with oil was nothing for me to get upset about..he actually and I quote....said "don't ask for too much man"...Im not complaining bout 3 lousy broken amps here..Im complaining about the packaging and its subsequent consequences on not only my freedom..but on his domestic remailing operation..you'de think he'de be happy I was giving him some important feedback...Im very disappointed in his attitude...although funny thing is..I'll prob order from him again...Im pretty sure it wonthappen again..was just upset at his non-caring response...
fugetaboutit
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Danielledanny, Are you serious?? You think your question is legit?? Seriously???? WTF makes you think that is the way this website operates??? That shit doesn't fly in here, read the rules b4 you post again.
liquidmuscle
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i think on the chances of getting popped, domestic slips thru the cracks a bit more imo but if it gets flagged the postal inspectors/local police etc etc can come pay you a visit if you get popped w/international 7 out of 10 times they just send a siezure letter..imo atleast
liquidmuscle said:
But 7 out of 10 is NOT very good odds...
DIVISION said:With guarunteed re-shipping that doesn't matter......
DIV
I dont care about guaranteed reshipping....With the way I like to "stock up" on items when I order, mine would probably turn into a Controlled Delivery
....So a reshipping wouldnt help me at all :
The Terminator said:I dont care about guaranteed reshipping....With the way I like to "stock up" on items when I order, mine would probably turn into a Controlled Delivery
I do the same thing; all my orders are "BULK" and they break it up in to several shipments....
Never had a controleld delivery and only had one seizure.....and it was re-shipped of course.
The best deals are through international, not domestic.
DIV
Retabolil2
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Very interesting reading. Your source should thank you for such an exposure! What kind of an answer did you expect from you source? Something like "Shit happens" or "I'll kick my remailer's ass!" ? There are some things beyoned your source control bro, such as his remailer packaging.VeteranNewbie88 said:
You know back in 90`s no one would complain about 3 broken amps. I miss those years. Now many people think its kind of Wal-mart!
VeteranNewbie88
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Retabolil2 said:
...Believe me Ret, I would never ever even hint at exposing who my source is....Im sure she wouldnt appreciate that and my purpose is DEF not to hurt her business...that is not my intentions at all...and I already stated twice...I was NOT upset at all about the 3 broken amps....again..I was not upset about 3 measly broken amps..it was simply how my source reacted....in my eyes, I was providing some valuable feedback on her domestic remailer's shipping....thats it...the only thing I expected was a response with a little more understanding of how I was concerned and perhaps a statement that she would make sure that the remailer would pack better next time...thats not too much to ask....I know that some sources dont have total control over their remailer, thats why I was just providing some information to my source so perhaps the situation could be corrected...my source's response made me feel like a total ass for even bringing up that the whole end of my pack was soaked in oil...it was just disappointing cause I have always thought my source to be the best...not only business-wise..but personality too...I dont think it was a bad thing to politely bring it up ....I certainly know that getting gear isnt like walking into Wal-Mart..if it was, we'de all be MUCH bigger..lol...I just was a little disappointed with how my source kind of turned the whole thing around on me and said I was asking too much for wanting my domestic package to arrive without being saturated with oil....I know that shit happens and I understand that, but how is it that anyone could think its acceptable for a domestic pack to arrive covered in oil....
Retabolil2
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Maybe that bitch had a periodVeteranNewbie88 said:
Retabolil2 said:Maybe that bitch had a period
I'm sure that makes him feel a whole lot better there, fucknuts.....
I wouldn't accept that from my source, I'd demand and receive a re-ship for any damaged amps.....
Remember......these sources are here because of our business.......don't forget that shit.
DIV
VeteranNewbie88
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Retabolil2 said:Maybe that bitch had a period
Bwaaahhh hahaha
Breeze
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Regardless of who is at fault for broken amps, if any liquid is leaking from a package the chances of it being opened up are extremely high. I work in the shipping industry and leaking packages are considered to be potentially hazardous, therefore making inspection a routine procedure.
danieledanny
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opsssssss sorry i know maybe i made stupid question...............but i read too many site that ship these so i didn't think about this
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satchboogie
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not to suck my dick here or anything, but i think i can shed some serious light on this topic:
first off, the country of origin is most important.
some countries are red listed and so are watched more carefully by customs.
second, airport where pack comes through is a big factor.
east coast, for the most part, is easier than the west coast S.F.
third, size of package, and what your sources claims on the customs slip are both huge determinants.
for the most part,the smaller the package the less likelihood to get snagged.
so dont plan on gettin in 2000 sustanons unless you're a pro
if your source claims 'chocolate', for example, and customs shakes the box and hears the common rattle of blisters, its likely to raise suspicion. thats why you have to trust your source. i know a few sources
that ship internationally with NO SEIZURE TO DATE!!
also, how neat the package is inside.
when scanned through xray, the neater the better.
they machines pick up shadows and outlines..
have you been at the airport lately?
next time they run your hand luggage through the machines, stand back and check it out.
to answer your question...
i would not feel too comfy receiving any packs from china unless they ONLY contained ancillaries and/or hgh.
good luck bro.
first off, the country of origin is most important.
some countries are red listed and so are watched more carefully by customs.
second, airport where pack comes through is a big factor.
east coast, for the most part, is easier than the west coast S.F.
third, size of package, and what your sources claims on the customs slip are both huge determinants.
for the most part,the smaller the package the less likelihood to get snagged.
so dont plan on gettin in 2000 sustanons unless you're a pro
if your source claims 'chocolate', for example, and customs shakes the box and hears the common rattle of blisters, its likely to raise suspicion. thats why you have to trust your source. i know a few sources
that ship internationally with NO SEIZURE TO DATE!!also, how neat the package is inside.
when scanned through xray, the neater the better.
they machines pick up shadows and outlines..
have you been at the airport lately?
next time they run your hand luggage through the machines, stand back and check it out.
to answer your question...
i would not feel too comfy receiving any packs from china unless they ONLY contained ancillaries and/or hgh.
good luck bro.
BoS*FLANKER
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If your ordering a small amount of gear from overseas, you very unlikly to be visited by the customs agents..
also I'm not sure the country or origin is as important as it used to be, an audit conducted by the US customs department in 2003 showed that most "online pharmacies" were shipping from Europe, and the mail from Europe had more medicines in the packages, those countries used to be considered innocent are not so much anymore..they are less likly to discriminate as much as they used to as a result of that audit..
also I'm not sure the country or origin is as important as it used to be, an audit conducted by the US customs department in 2003 showed that most "online pharmacies" were shipping from Europe, and the mail from Europe had more medicines in the packages, those countries used to be considered innocent are not so much anymore..they are less likly to discriminate as much as they used to as a result of that audit..
satchboogie said:
DIVISION said:I'm sure that makes him feel a whole lot better there, fucknuts.....
Yikes
That was uncalled for ...Ret is very respected long time member here and intune with alot more here than most
The Terminator said:Yikes
My thoughts too bro. Division, you sometimes sound like a mouthy little biatch bro.
I think that you have some good advice to offer, but might want to pipe down on the stupid shit flaming I read on some of your posts.
Mavy said:My thoughts too bro. Division, you sometimes sound like a mouthy little biatch bro.
I take that as a Diss, then Mavy.
It's been good 2 know U.
DIV
kbrkbr said:
Yep, Elisha Cuthbert
Retabolil2
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its none of your fucking business.DIVISION said:I'm sure that makes him feel a whole lot better there, fucknuts.....
I wouldn't accept that from my source, I'd demand and receive a re-ship for any damaged amps.....
Remember......these sources are here because of our business.......don't forget that shit.
DIV
bullcocky said:Chill out bro......smoke a jointand take ten deep breaths
It wasnt Ret who started the flaming here...
He was simply responding to the rude comment thrown his way...(as he should...)
Retabolil2
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Absolutely correct. I dont have enough time to play internet games with little kids. So I take ten deep breaths and tell them to fuck off... its easyThe Terminator said:It wasnt Ret who started the flaming here...
He was simply responding to the rude comment thrown his way...(as he should...)
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