Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I'm a first-timer, 25 yrs old 5'10 170 lbs, need to pack on some muscle. I eat about 1g/lb protein per day through natural food and protein powder/bars as well as 10g/day creatine mono, work out every other day. I definantly dont want to dart myself, my buddy I worked with was a pro body builder and always complained plus I hate needles unless needed. He suggested taking dbol but we lost touch when I quit that job. I was thinking going just d-bol maybe 25-30mg and some nolvadex for anti-e. Any other tips or stuff to add, remember only orals- I know its not the best route but I refuse to dart myself
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RADAR
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actually a dbol cycle is as good as anything else, it all falls down on how you eat, keep training intensity,rest and PCT.Dbol is a steroid like anything else.alot will be water weight, but the increase in poundage on the exercise will add extra mass, get at least a gram of protein for every pound of bodyweight.
you can run it for as long as 8 weeks providing you keep up water intake, drink plenty of cranberry juice, and liver protectors.
RADAR
you can run it for as long as 8 weeks providing you keep up water intake, drink plenty of cranberry juice, and liver protectors.
RADAR
DieselGunz
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dont do dbol bor if you want to do a oral do tbol or var easier to come off and leaner gains but word to the wise orals are hard on your liver and cholesteral
RADAR said:
exactly, goddamn old wives tales still floating around, dbol is the same as any other steroid, and its very anabolic too! If all your gains are bloat, then your training and diet suck ass, dont blame the gear...you will obviously lose any water, but many mistake that for muscle....but since its so anabolic, it is great for actual muscle mass gains
AhMadKooL
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I found this link about oral only cycles:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsample.htm
It says:
"I'm a member at several online steroid boards and you always hear the vets say: "Don't use only orals, your gains won't last". Here's a newsflash: the roids you take orally are no different from the ones you inject. Naturally I need to add here that you will get better gains with injectables. The half-life is longer, they can be used longer because they aren't so toxic, they can be used in higher doses and the effects stay for a while after a cycle (which could account for the belief that gains on orals disappear). But I'd like to know where the belief that an oral only stack can't offer good gains originated? A lot of bodybuilders in the 60's and 70's were basically living off dianabol. The key to keeping gains on any stack is facilitating the return of natural test after a stack and keeping calories high in your diet no matter what."
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsample.htm
It says:
"I'm a member at several online steroid boards and you always hear the vets say: "Don't use only orals, your gains won't last". Here's a newsflash: the roids you take orally are no different from the ones you inject. Naturally I need to add here that you will get better gains with injectables. The half-life is longer, they can be used longer because they aren't so toxic, they can be used in higher doses and the effects stay for a while after a cycle (which could account for the belief that gains on orals disappear). But I'd like to know where the belief that an oral only stack can't offer good gains originated? A lot of bodybuilders in the 60's and 70's were basically living off dianabol. The key to keeping gains on any stack is facilitating the return of natural test after a stack and keeping calories high in your diet no matter what."
karachi183
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100% percent agreed i myself love dbol and dbol only at that. At some point in the future i'll be jabbing but at my age my test levels feel like they throught the roof already. The only thing is IMO for a 4 weeker i'd do 25mgs starting at 10mg then seeing how you react and or i would do 10mg for 8 weeks... Either way as long as your diet is ion check you'll gain and gain some strength... Finally the reputable vets chimmed in on the dbol bashing... NICE
BigCracker
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I still say you need 200 mgs/ of test a week in addition to the dbol to really make it happen. So get over the fear of needles you junkie!!! It's just a matter of time before your sucking cock for your next shot.
I'm feeling sick...need to get better....ooooohhh the pain....neeed test. Maybe I can pawn the plasma tv set for $$$??? I'm jonesin'...got to get big. Betty Ford Clinic here I come.
I'm feeling sick...need to get better....ooooohhh the pain....neeed test. Maybe I can pawn the plasma tv set for $$$??? I'm jonesin'...got to get big. Betty Ford Clinic here I come.
Well Im not going to jump on the DBol only bandwagon, I just want to say the posters here have a lot of class for first off not treating the kid like crap, and also agree'ing to disagree and not turning this into a flame war.
Over at bb.com, the original poster would have been negged 10 deep into the red for asking, would have had 10 posters calling him childish names and telling him what an idiot he is, then a Mod would have come in, told the kid he needs more research, or that steroids were not for him ( without helping him a bit ) and then close the thread.
Anyhow its cool to find a board where people try and help newbies, not treat them like crap for asking questions. We all wernt born with the knowledge we have today, ya gotta start somewhere.
Over at bb.com, the original poster would have been negged 10 deep into the red for asking, would have had 10 posters calling him childish names and telling him what an idiot he is, then a Mod would have come in, told the kid he needs more research, or that steroids were not for him ( without helping him a bit ) and then close the thread.
Anyhow its cool to find a board where people try and help newbies, not treat them like crap for asking questions. We all wernt born with the knowledge we have today, ya gotta start somewhere.
karachi183
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KD1 said:
Agreed mostly because alot of the guys here are real while some maybe even half are fake posters who do not have real world knowledge or even workout for that matter... Bottom line.. Dbol isn't called the breakfast of champions for nothing.. And it can be a usefull tool while dieting,bulking and maintaining. And it's great for those who aren't ready to crossover... IMO it's just so very flexible!
Now i won't say another word because this will turn into one of those nasty threads.....
mr. snakes
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klmsu19 said:
My first cycle was Dbol only, and i turned out ok ................................
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mr. snakes
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RADAR said:
Agrees ..........................................................
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